# The Republicans won! Nener NENER neneener **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2002, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541 "2002-11-06T13:45:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/41 "2002-11-06T20:58:59Z")
Huh? Republicans won? Ohhhh, you mean **outside** of Illinois, where we voted in - among other candidates - the first Democratic governor for the state in 25 years. I’m thrilled over the re-election of Judy Baar Topinka ®, who’s proven to be a wonderful treasurer for the state and spearheaded some good programs. I’m questionable about the election of Lisa Madigan (D) for our attorney general, but her Republican opponent wasn’t looking that hot either. See, even though I count myself a Democrat, I care about the qualifications of the candidates, and not so much what party they’re affiliated with. I truly hope that amidst the celebration over the “Republican victory”, the best candidates were elected. Because if that’s not the case, everyone loses in the end. ---
**Author:** ![evilhanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba8739/32.png) [@evilhanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilhanz)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/42 "2002-11-06T22:09:47Z")
Arrogance and complacency are what cost the GOP their momentum after the big win in 1994. You should know that sleestak. Now is not the time to gloat no matter what the other party might have done in the same shoes. It’s time to get to work. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/43 "2002-11-06T22:11:29Z")
To work? Doing what? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/44 "2002-11-06T22:13:29Z")
Why, making sure _our_ team of mud-flinging children gets to play on the swings instead of _theirs_, of course. ---
**Author:** ![evilhanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba8739/32.png) [@evilhanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilhanz)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/45 "2002-11-06T22:42:16Z")
Moving potential judges through the confirmation process for starters. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/46 "2002-11-06T23:15:37Z")
Oh great, let’s stack the federal courts with activist, right-wing, anti-abortion, Christian fundamentalist, Pledge-of-Allegiance chanting, anti-gay “Adam and Steve” cliche spewing, “evolution is just a theory” canard spewing, “Let’s appoint Bush” democracy undermining, “sure, here’s a warrant” civil rights ambivilant, lifetime appointed, pro-Bush conservative judges. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/47 "2002-11-06T23:24:56Z")
eek, Dio. Have you researched Bush’s judicial nominees are are you making snap judgements about Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/48 "2002-11-07T00:13:08Z")
I’m making snap judgements. I’m angry today. I’ll be better tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/49 "2002-11-07T00:14:20Z")
Rendell won Pennsylvania, and Davis kept California. My two favorite races, and my favorite candidates won. Life is sweet. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/50 "2002-11-07T00:17:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andymurph64 \* > \*\*Then Pawlenty wins handily with his platform of NO NEW TAXES! \*\* Did you read his lips? ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/51 "2002-11-07T00:20:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*To work? Doing what? \*\* Our first order of business is to teach some of our, uh, lesser members to spell “neener.” ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/52 "2002-11-07T00:30:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*Oh great, let’s stack the federal courts with activist, right-wing, anti-abortion, Christian fundamentalist, Pledge-of-Allegiance chanting, anti-gay “Adam and Steve” cliche spewing, “evolution is just a theory” canard spewing, “Let’s appoint Bush” democracy undermining, “sure, here’s a warrant” civil rights ambivilant, lifetime appointed, pro-Bush conservative judges. \*\* As opposed to activist, left-wing, pro-abortion, athiest, pledge-hating, gay pride marching, anti-religious, Clinton-ophile, weak on crime, lifetime appointed, pro-Clinton leftist judges?? I’ll choose neither. Gimme a few plain 'ol textualists any day of the week – oh wait, that _is_ what GWB is supposedly trying to appoint. When you know a little about law, and have read case after case from the SCOTUS, you realize that 95% of the cases they hear have absolutely _no connection whatsoever_ to traditional left/right conflicts. In most every case, the same things happen regardless of who would be helped or hindered by the outcome. Scalia looks solely within the four corners of the text, considering the text within internal context only, and that’s his final word. Stevens and his ilk scrounge up every bit of floor debate they can, eventually dialing up a radio psychic in a futile attempt to divine through magic the mythical creature known as “legislative intent.” Stevens method has more flexibility, more room for judicial activism, but either method is usually applied similiarly in the vast majority of cases. Call back when you learn a little about the process of statutory interpretation, ok? Bye now, idiot. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/53 "2002-11-07T03:34:34Z")
For it is written, that whatsoever shall go around, therefore shall it come around. Today’s pig is tomorrow’s bacon. ---
**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/54 "2002-11-07T06:29:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RexDart \* > \*\* > When you know a little about law, and have read case after case from the SCOTUS, you realize that 95% of the cases they hear have absolutely _no connection whatsoever_ to traditional left/right conflicts. In most every case, the same things happen regardless of who would be helped or hindered by the outcome. Scalia looks solely within the four corners of the text, considering the text within internal context only, and that’s his final word. Stevens and his ilk scrounge up every bit of floor debate they can, eventually dialing up a radio psychic in a futile attempt to divine through magic the mythical creature known as “legislative intent.” Stevens method has more flexibility, more room for judicial activism, but either method is usually applied similiarly in the vast majority of cases. > > \*\* Of course, it’s the other five percent that makes all the difference. There is a clear political slant and context to SOME Supreme Court cases. That has always been true–since the founding of the republic. The appointment of justices to that court is a ligitimate matter of political concern. Some might think that “textualist” could be code for “no more changes.” Some might also think that the founders and the Congress thought out all the possible complications–those people might be wrong. Friend, your bias is showing–do you predict or do you state as fact that justices of the Supreme Court have conjsulted radio psychics, or is it just a little good humored hype? ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/55 "2002-11-07T06:55:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sleestak \* > \*\* > Guess who passed the last tax cut? Guess who wants to keep the tax cut? Yep, it’s Bush and the GOP for the most part. Guess who wants to raise taxes? Yep, it’s the Dem’s. > > Lib, I looked at my last pay stub and taxes were lower due to Bush and the Pubbies cutting the tax. \*\* Well. I’d tell you what my pay stub says if I wasn’t out of a job and can’t get a new one. So,. I suppose I have a lower tax rate now… now that my income is ZERO! I personally don’t care about tax cuts and rebates. I just want a fucking job so I can pay my bills and do neat things like eat food. From what I can tell none of the parties involved care about that, or me. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/56 "2002-11-07T07:01:09Z")
So now that the Republicans get 2 more years of control, that means you guys are going to stop blaming everything on Clinton, right? Have a nice war and recession, everyone! I wonder what sportswriters in Canada make… ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/57 "2002-11-07T07:34:27Z")
The real reason the Democrats lost was in the immortal words of [**Mr\_SmokesTooMuch**](http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID60/16294.html) from DU. 😃 > [@](#): > > The Voter News Service/Exit Polling went “down” leaving us with no way to compare what exit polls reported as opposed to alleged “vote counts”. I think the Dems probably actually won in LANDSLIDES, but with no exit polling to compare to vote totals we will never know. Thats the first time in over 20 years there has been any trouble with the VNS also. > > In 2000, VNS showed Gorew winning in florida, that is why it was so “unreliable” this time and had to be shut off. It was showing Dem victories instead of Repuke ones. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/58 "2002-11-07T08:03:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > \*\*Fair enough, although I was hoping that the person I actually addressed my comment to would be the one to rise to my bait. (See, there aren’t facts to get straight. I never said that no one was taking home more money, just that Sleestak wasn’t. I expected him to put up.) \*\* Sorry **andros** , that whole ‘sleep then go to work’ thing kept me busy for a while. I apologize for not responding to your Bullshit quickly enough. I _AM_ taking home more money due to the tax cut. It isn’t a huge amount but it is more money which I earned. I’d give details but I prefer to keep that information private. I will say that it is about inline with what \*\* In Conceivable\*\* posted. Slee ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/59 "2002-11-07T11:06:38Z")
How much is it? ---
**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541/60 "2002-11-07T12:13:41Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Seven_ > now that my income is ZERO! … I personally don’t care about tax cuts and rebates. I just want a fucking job You obviously can read and write. There are jobs for you. Even if you couldn’t read or write, there’d still be jobs for you. McDonald’s is always hiring. Maybe you think you’re worth more than you really are. My granddad had a saying, “If you ever feel that you aren’t living up to your standards, all you have to do is _lower your standards_ a little bit and you’ll be fine.” Dig ditches for 80 hours a week, and any able bodied person in this country can make a living. Whine about it, and I have no respect for you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-republicans-won-nener-nener-neneener/135541.md?page=4)