# The Research Is In: Pubbies Are Born That Way! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 21, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087 "2007-04-21T18:24:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/41 "2007-04-23T23:50:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Liberals are messier than conservatives, their rooms have more clutter and more color, and they tend to have more travel documents, maps of other countries, and flags from around the world. Describes me to a T. And I am very conservative. Oh, well…it was a handjob for liberals written by a bunch of Berk liberals. Who’da ever thunk it? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/42 "2007-04-23T23:54:30Z")
Bless his heart, he can’t help it. They’re born that way, doncha know? That’s a true fact, you could look it up. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/43 "2007-04-24T00:20:05Z")
[QUOTE=Absolute] And that’s why the liberals think that big government is the solution to all our problems - because they’re “self-reliant, energetic, impulsive, and resilient”. Whereas the conservatives, who value freedom and prefer that government avoid intruding in our lives as much as possible (for better or for worse), are the ones who are “easily victimized, easily offended, indecisive, fearful, rigid, inhibited, and vulnerable”. Note that I am not talking about Democrats or Republicans here - for some reason, both parties have turned into half-liberal, half-conservative hypocrites. But come on, this is just utter self-indulgent bullshit for liberals. [/quote] None of what you say is actually true. Liberals do not think the government is the solution to all our problems, we think that the government has a responsibility to provide some basic safety nets and show some social responsibility. It’s not authoritarian. Saying that conservatives value freedom is laughable in light of Bush’s systematic dismantling of the Constitution as well as the fact that righties are obsessed with stopping men from kissing. women from getting abortions, anyone from burning stripey swaths of cloth, teenagers from knowing anything about birth control, anyone from criticizing Republican wars, anyone who says “happy holidays” instead of "Merry Christmas the list goes on. Conservatives fear and despise freedom and see it as a cancer on society which must be cured. > [@](#): > > Conservatives also tend to have more money. Which is odd, because ‘self-reliant, energetic, impulsive and resilient’ types are exactly the kind of people who do well in business. It’s really more that people who have money tend to vote conservative. When people get money, they get protective and greedy. The study was interesting. I knew conservatives were incurious, uptight, fearful and controlling and that they need the comfort of authority (religious as well as governmental), but I didn’t know it was genetic. Fascinating. Maybe we can finally do something about it. By the way, the reason they can keep their homes more tidy is because they don’t have any reading material. Liberals tend to have a lot of book clutter. Just in case anyone doesn’t get it, some of my post should be read with a 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/44 "2007-04-24T00:30:08Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Saying that conservatives value freedom is laughable in light of Bush’s systematic dismantling of the Constitution . . . [/QUOTE] Many self-identified conservatives on this board do not consider W a conservative for that very reason (and because of his drunken-sailor deficit spending). ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/45 "2007-04-24T00:52:40Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Many self-identified conservatives on this board do not consider W a conservative for that very reason (and because of his drunken-sailor deficit spending). [/QUOTE] We have a drunken sailor deficit? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/46 "2007-04-24T01:46:51Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] We have a drunken sailor deficit? [/QUOTE] We have deficits of sailors, soldiers, airmen, guardsmen, and probably boy scouts, drunken or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![StuffLikeThatThere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@StuffLikeThatThere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StuffLikeThatThere)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/47 "2007-04-24T04:08:55Z")
[QUOTE=CaerieD] Now there’s an excellent question to ask my friends who are anti-abortion except when it comes to certain birth defects. Would it be ethical to abort your fetus if testing found it to be genetically liberal? Hmmm. [/QUOTE] Yeah, you think you’re kidding. I had a boss many moons ago, who, when asked, “Do you know if it’s a boy or a girl?” said, “We don’t care, as long as it’s a Republican.” She Was. Not. Joking. She was also not quite, um, balanced. Eek. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/48 "2007-04-24T04:29:12Z")
[QUOTE=StuffLikeThatThere] Yeah, you think you’re kidding. I had a boss many moons ago, who, when asked, “Do you know if it’s a boy or a girl?” said, “We don’t care, as long as it’s a Republican.” She Was. Not. Joking. She was also not quite, um, balanced. Eek. [/QUOTE] Response: Oh, well, then, good luck with the blood test! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087/49 "2007-04-24T07:54:17Z")
[QUOTE=Absolute] And that’s why the liberals think that **big government is the solution to all our problems** - because they’re “self-reliant, energetic, impulsive, and resilient”. Whereas the conservatives, **who value freedom** and **prefer that government avoid intruding in our lives as much as possible** (for better or for worse), are the ones who are “easily victimized, easily offended, indecisive, fearful, rigid, inhibited, and vulnerable”. [/QUOTE] This was sarcasm right? Just one big whoosh? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-research-is-in-pubbies-are-born-that-way/401087.md?page=2)