# The Return of the Justice League - Feb 11th **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 7, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419 "2006-02-07T18:08:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/41 "2006-02-13T16:38:45Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Everybody knows that the REAL GL wears black and white and a crab mask. > > : d & r : There’s a **G’Nort** joke to be made here. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/42 "2006-02-13T17:24:29Z")
Big Bad Voodoo Lou: > [@](#): > > (which is how we’ve gotten some oddball figure choices like Aztek, Waverider, and the **Ditko Starman** ) Where the heck can I find the Starman one? Being a Starman fan I’ve wanted to own one since I heard they were going to make one, but he isn’t in any of the racks I see in Toys R Us or Target. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/43 "2006-02-13T17:32:06Z")
I think the Starman I have was in a three-pack, but I’ve seen him by himself at Target too. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/44 "2006-02-13T17:56:26Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > At least the mysterious contract also kept Blue Beetle out of the reportedly-atrocious made-for-TV live action Justice League pilot, which featured an out-of-shape David Ogden Stiers as Martian Manhunter, along with Green Lantern Guy Gardner, Flash, the Atom, Fire, and Ice. Ow, my brain. There was no cause to inflict a flashback of that travesty on me, sir. Particularly since I then had to Google to see if it was as bad as I’d been successfully not remembering. It was. And, worse, I realized that Matt Settle – whom I normally like – was Green Lantern. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![Papermache\_Prince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Papermache\_Prince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Papermache_Prince)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/45 "2006-02-13T17:59:33Z")
I might be wrong and didn’t tape the episode so I can’t confirm - but - I thought in the first shot in the villains bar, the camera panned from right to left: from a hooded villain to one wearing a “gas mask” type mask. They sure looked like [Doctor Alchemy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Alchemy) ® and Mister Element (l). The inside joke - both villains were the same man, Al Desmond. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/46 "2006-02-13T19:06:23Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > At least the mysterious contract also kept Blue Beetle out of the reportedly-atrocious made-for-TV live action Justice League pilot, which featured an out-of-shape David Ogden Stiers as Martian Manhunter, along with Green Lantern Guy Gardner, Flash, the Atom, Fire, and Ice. I have the show on my hard drive. It is terrible, but if you want to see it let me know and I can burn it onto a CD for you. Where anymore episodes than the pilot made? ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/47 "2006-02-13T19:13:47Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > I have the show on my hard drive. It is terrible, but if you want to see it let me know and I can burn it onto a CD for you. Where anymore episodes than the pilot made? You know what? I’d love to see it, but I’ve heard it’s really bad, and not even in a “laugh and embrace the badness” sort of way. I would appreciate it, but don’t go to ANY extra trouble or expense on my account. I know they never produced any more episodes after that pilot, and I don’t believe it was ever even shown in the USA. I understand most copies that are circulating are taped from European broadcastings. **cmkeller** , The Ditko Starman was available for a short time in a 3-pack with Superman and Amazo, and then released single-carded with his cosmic rod (since the 3-pack figures never come with accessories). Otherwise, the figure is the same. E-mail me at [saxman2@hotmail.com](mailto:saxman2@hotmail.com) if you want, and I’ll see what I can do about finding you one. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/48 "2006-02-13T19:44:23Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > **cmkeller** , The Ditko Starman was available for a short time in a 3-pack with Superman and Amazo What a strange grouping. As to the JLA pilot. It’s…something else. Pretend it’s not supposed to be the JLA and it’s moderately bad. But in a fun way. Remember that it is, and…well, I actually had a lot of fun nitpicking how they changed the powers and histories (well…there’s not much nitpicking to that…they were completely unrelated to their comics versions - Barry was an undermotivated slacker of moderate intellect). ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419/49 "2006-02-13T19:52:43Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > What a strange grouping. There generally hasn’t been a lot of rhyme or reason to the 3-pack groupings. In addition to that, we’ve seen: Batman/Hawkgirl/Elongated Man Batman/Wildcat/Metamorpho Superman/Aztek/Sinestro Flash/Green Lantern/Red Tornado Flash/Green Lantern/Atom Smasher Flash/Hawkgirl/Waverider Green Lantern/Martian Manhunter/Booster Gold Supeman (metallic)/Wonder Woman (metallic)/Brainiac Batman/Wonder Woman/Bizarro Green Lantern/Martian Manhunter/Black Canary And coming soon: Superman/Aquaman/Dr. Light 2 At least they’ve grouped Justice Lords Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman together, a Green Lantern 3-pack with the usual GL John Stewart/Kilowog/Tomar Re, and a villains 3-pack with Lex Luthor/Mirror Master/Copperhead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-return-of-the-justice-league-feb-11th/343419.md?page=2)