# The Rick Perry for President Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 14, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720 "2011-08-14T20:51:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/181 "2011-09-01T01:25:18Z")

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If Perry is elected I will take it as positive proof that there is no God, and He hates me.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/182 "2011-09-01T01:35:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If Perry is elected I will take it as positive proof that there is no God, and He hates me.

I assure you that if Rick Perry is elected President, I will be in Canada so fast it will make your head spin even more than usual, and the fact that I may wind up begging for quarters on the streets of Biggar, Saskatchewan is irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/183 "2011-09-01T01:53:26Z")

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It occurs to me that life in this country would probably be a lot more harmonious if all the people threatening to leave if some Republican gets elected would just go ahead and do it anyway. I think we’d all be happier with the result.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/184 "2011-09-01T02:08:48Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> It occurs to me that life in this country would probably be a lot more harmonious if all the people threatening to leave if some Republican gets elected would just go ahead and do it anyway. I think we’d all be happier with the result.

I’m not threatening to leave the country if _some Republican_ gets elected. I’m threatening to leave the country if a specific Republican gets elected.

I also doubt that _we’d all_ be happier with the result, in the long term. I can still vote for President from Biggar, assuming that I get enough quarters for postage to the U.S.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/185 "2011-09-01T02:31:10Z")

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It’s nearly always the case that it’s a specific Republican which triggers the threat. The point is that if certain people are of the type who feel they can’t abide the choices made by our electorate, we’d probably all be better off if they went somewhere where the politics are generally more to their liking to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/186 "2011-09-01T02:34:08Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> It’s nearly always the case that it’s a specific Republican which triggers the threat. The point is that if certain people are of the type who feel they can’t abide the choices made by our electorate, we’d probably all be better off if they went somewhere where the politics are generally more to their liking to begin with.

Huh. Where have all the Tea Party voters expatriated themselves to?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/187 "2011-09-01T03:19:18Z")

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As far as I know they’re all still here.

They wouldn’t be voters otherwise. 😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/188 "2011-09-01T03:25:21Z")

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To that shiny America where Ozzie and Harriet still live, where people listen respectfully to what **Starving** has to say, and murmur polite agreement. nodding. Tonight, Bob Hope will tell a joke about how hippies never bathe, and don’t work.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/189 "2011-09-01T04:34:43Z")

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Silly **luci**. _Ozzie and Harriet_ was entertainment and had about as close a relationship to everyday life as _I Love Lucy_.

But I’m sure you know that. You do love your little games, though I can’t help but wonder if the board’s readers recognize the insult to their intelligence that underlies them. Anybody who takes you seriously when you make these snide little references either lacks the ability to separate TV fiction from real life, or they simply lack the intelligence to recognize manipulation when they see it. Either way they’re being played for chumps and they ought to resent it.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/190 "2011-09-01T13:00:45Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> I assure you that if Rick Perry is elected President, I will be in Canada so fast it will make your head spin even more than usual, and the fact that I may wind up begging for quarters on the streets of Biggar, Saskatchewan is irrelevant.

Are you serious?

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/191 "2011-09-01T13:24:30Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Silly **luci**. _Ozzie and Harriet_ was entertainment and had about as close a relationship to everyday life as _I Love Lucy_.
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> But I’m sure you know that. You do love your little games, though I can’t help but wonder if the board’s readers recognize the insult to their intelligence that underlies them. Anybody who takes you seriously when you make these snide little references either lacks the ability to separate TV fiction from real life, or they simply lack the intelligence to recognize manipulation when they see it. Either way they’re being played for chumps and they ought to resent it.

Most of us realize that **elucidator** has a sense of humor. And you’ve made quite a career of fantasizing about a past that never existed. When white men were in charge and women & minorities stayed in their places…

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/192 "2011-09-01T13:35:37Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Are you serious?

Probably not. There’s some chance I’ll wind up there, but it will have little or nothing to do with who the president is.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/193 "2011-09-01T22:48:49Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> As far as I know they’re all still here.
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> They wouldn’t be voters otherwise. 😃

Actually, expatriates CAN vote. And most absentee voters are Republicans. Republicans are definitely much better organized at getting out absentee ballots.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/194 "2011-09-02T00:15:43Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> As far as I know they’re all still here.
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> They wouldn’t be voters otherwise. 😃

Dude, did you just totally ignore **Frank** ’s point? Here’s what you posted:

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> It’s nearly always the case that it’s a specific Republican which triggers the threat. The point is that if certain people are of **the type who feel they can’t abide the choices made by our electorate** , we’d probably all be better off if they went somewhere where the politics are generally more to their liking to begin with.

Do you understand the reference to the Tea Partiers?

The fact that few people on the right threaten to leave the country if a Democrat is elected is beside the point. The fact is that people on the right are far more intense in attacking the legitimacy of any Democrat who gets elected President.

And it’s people like that who our country would be better off without. :mad:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/195 "2011-09-02T00:41:57Z")

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Don’t want them to leave, want them to sane up. If by “conservative”, one means to say respectful of change but inclined to be prudent and cautious, we can talk. Hell, go one better than that, they can talk and I’ll listen. And then I’ll talk, and they can listen.

But they have to get through at least one session of discussing policies and goals without starting to gibber and greeb about _sharia_ law gay marriage, I have no time to waste on batshit.

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**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/196 "2011-09-02T02:12:38Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> Dude, did you just totally ignore **Frank** ’s point? Here’s what you posted:  
> Do you understand the reference to the Tea Partiers?
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> The fact that few people on the right threaten to leave the country if a Democrat is elected is beside the point. The fact is that people on the right are far more intense in attacking the legitimacy of any Democrat who gets elected President.
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> And it’s people like that who our country would be better off without. :mad:

Typical Tea Party response: [Man with gun at Obama Town Hall](http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2009/08/11/4426547-men-with-guns-outside-town-hall)

That was six months into the Obama Presidency.  
Then there was Sharon Angle’s famous “Second Amendment solution” to Harry Reid.  
And of course Rick Perry, just to stay with the wonderful person we’re discussing here, calling Bernanke “treasonous” and how he’d be treated “pretty ugly in Texas”.

In a prior time, these people would have been laughed at first, then scorned. Instead, we’re talking about this guy as a serious candidate for President.

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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/197 "2011-09-02T10:46:40Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> Wow. Worse than GW Bush, even? Now that’s scary! :eek:

Rick Perry is far worse than GW. He is even worse than Ronald Reagan. He really wants to repeal most of the most important economic reforms of the twentieth century, including the income tax, Social Security, and Medicare. :eek:

I hope that as the voters learn more about him his approval rating will go down, but if the unemployment rate goes up, or even stays where it is, anything is possible. :eek:

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/198 "2011-09-02T16:19:54Z")

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> [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](#):
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> Rick Perry is far worse than GW. He is even worse than Ronald Reagan. He really wants to repeal most of the most important economic reforms of the twentieth century, including the income tax, Social Security, and Medicare. :eek:
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> I hope that as the voters learn more about him his approval rating will go down, but if the unemployment rate goes up, or even stays where it is, anything is possible. :eek:

It will be difficult because he will lie and cover up. He needs to reveal his true colors to the tea baggers to get the nomination. The tricky part is Perry needs to deny and cover it to get elected. He will have to step carefully in order to keep baggers in line and appeal to people who are not crazy. It will not be easy.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/199 "2011-09-08T22:17:03Z")

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Did it bother anyone the way the Republican debate crowd cheered when Perry reaffirmed his pride in, and commitment to, executing convicted murderers?

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/200 "2011-09-08T22:22:46Z")

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Did it bother anyone the way the Republican debate crowd cheered when Perry reaffirmed his pride in, and commitment to, executing convicted murderers?

It didn’t outrage me - support for the DP is not a deal breaker for me if I agree with the candidate overall. It did seem quite strange, though. Isn’t the death of a convicted murderer, along with the death of his victim, a tragedy for all? It strikes me that the execution of a murderer should, for DP supporters, be a most unfortunate but necessary part of justice, not something to applaud.

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