# The Rick Perry for President Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 14, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720 "2011-08-14T20:51:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/161 "2011-08-21T23:59:13Z")
[Has the porn thing been brought up yet?](http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-investment-porn) I skimmed through the thread didn’t see anything. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/162 "2011-08-22T00:03:46Z")
Ooh, haven’t seen that yet. That’s gonna leave a mark. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/163 "2011-08-22T00:06:03Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > [Has the porn thing been brought up yet?](http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-investment-porn) I skimmed through the thread didn’t see anything. Okay, I have to admit, this one is in his favor. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/164 "2011-08-22T17:56:21Z")
> **[Rick Perry's book not intended to reflect Rick Perry's views](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/22/1009465/-Rick-Perrys-book-not-intended-to-reflect-Rick-Perrys-views?detail=hide&via=blog_1)** > > Did you know Rick Perry wrote a book last year? He even managed ... Daily Kos! Daily Kos! Totally lefty site, arrroooooga! Danger, Will Robinson! > [@](#): > > …I want this book to help foster a nationwide conversation about the proper role of government in our lives… Gov Rick Perry, on his book _Fed Up!_ > [@](#): > > …[Perry’s] communications director, Ray Sullivan, said Thursday that he had “never heard” the governor suggest [Social Security] was unconstitutional. Not only that, Mr. Sullivan said, but “Fed Up!” is not meant to reflect the governor’s current views on how to fix the program. […] > In an interview, Mr. Sullivan acknowledged that many passages in Mr. Perry’s “Fed Up!” could dog his presidential campaign. The book, Mr. Sullivan said, “is a look back, not a path forward.” It was written “as a review and critique of 50 years of federal excesses, not in any way as a 2012 campaign blueprint or manifesto,” Mr. Sullivan said… Spokesman for the New! Improved! Georgie Tirebiter. “He’s not insane!” ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/165 "2011-08-22T18:01:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “He’s not insane!” Oh, man, I was really hoping that was a direct quote from Sullivan. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/166 "2011-08-22T18:15:07Z")
I wanted to post this here: [Rick Perry on abstinence only education.](http://youtu.be/ngiJhmoFKkw) \<– Youtube He’s not what you call a deep thinker. ---
**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/167 "2011-08-22T20:53:58Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Typically hypocrite? > > [How Rick Perry aggressively pursued federal aid he now decries](http://news.yahoo.com/rick-perry-aggressively-pursued-federal-aid-now-decries-095000694.html) > > much more at the link I’m no fan of Rick Perry, but this doesn’t bother me. When my deeply indebted neighbors decided to splurge on a BBQ picnic for the neighborhood, I shook my head and told my wife that they ought to be spending their money more wisely. However, I still showed up at the feast, fork and knife in hand. I don’t see any hypocrisy there. I suppose it might work to discredit him among some of the set that ask why proponents of campaign finance reform engage in some of the practices they want restricted, as if they should play by rules that have yet to be established. The set that asks, if you think taxes should be higher, why don’t you just write the Treasury an extra large check come April. You know, the idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/168 "2011-08-22T23:44:06Z")
Now, it _is_ legitimate to point out that a lot of the improvements in Texas he’s been trumpeting about were a direct result of that federal aid he’s been decrying. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/169 "2011-08-23T19:34:22Z")
Perry wrote a book last year putting his thoughts and programs down for all to read. Now, on the national stage, he is suggesting we can not hold him this year for what he wrote last year. Typical 2 faced lying politician. ---
**Author:** ![tracy1963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@tracy1963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracy1963)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/170 "2011-08-24T15:12:37Z")
I remember when he refused to sign a bill making texting while driving against the law statewide because it infringed upon people’s personal rights too much or some such nonsense…sheesh! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/171 "2011-08-25T17:55:33Z")
> **[HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News](https://www.huffpost.com/?err_code=404&err_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2011%2F08%2F25%2Frick-perry-texas-life-insurance-scheme_n_935666.html%255C)** > > Read the latest headlines, news stories, and opinion from Politics, Entertainment, Life, Perspectives, and more. Perry is a miserable fuck deserving no respect. If I were a teacher in Texas ,I would check my brake lines before I drove my car. ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/172 "2011-08-31T01:58:35Z")
I express no opinion on whether Rick Perry can win the general. I will simply point out the following: 1 - The secession thingie is a complete non-starter with the Republican party. They like that stuff. (Despite what you see here, I guarantee you that at least two-thirds of the Republican Party agrees with Rick Perry on the stuff he says. Remember, prior to Obama finally getting Hawaii to release the long form and shut up the birthers, something like three-fourths of them were willing to express some degree of doubt as to his actually having been born in the US. The Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party is vanishingly small at this point.) 2 - He was a bad student? So what: Obama never released his transcripts. (Don’t know, and am not interested, in whether this is true or not. This is the response you will get.) 3 - The economy thing and jobs will never fly. San Antonio was, last I checked, which admittedly was a little while ago, the fastest growing city in the country. Yes, it’s dirt-poor, but still, it was growing like a weed, and is still doing well, according to my brother, who actually lives there. So, attacking him on the economy is going to be extremely tough. And we all know how important the economy is to winning elections. So, in conclusion, at this point I’m pretty convinced he’ll be the Republican nominee. And if Obama manages to beat him, it won’t be by a wide margin. It will be a very close squeaker. The more likely outcome is a convincing Perry win. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/173 "2011-08-31T02:34:56Z")
> [@pantom](#): > > I express no opinion on whether Rick Perry can win the general. > > … > > And if Obama manages to beat him, it won’t be by a wide margin. It will be a very close squeaker. The more likely outcome is a convincing Perry win. So, which is it? ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/174 "2011-08-31T02:42:27Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So, which is it? Oh lordie. Door number two, if you must know. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/175 "2011-08-31T03:03:47Z")
Uh oh. Looks like you’ve made up your mind. How dare you. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/176 "2011-08-31T04:05:34Z")
Perry will totally flame out in a matter of weeks. He is exciting exactly the same people as were excited by Palin/Bachmann Overdrive, and he repels the same people who are repelled, i.e., the sane and the sensible. The man has baggage. And that’s just the shit we know about. When the rest of the country peers into the cesspool of Texas politics, they clutch thier pearls and faint dead away, thud! Whatever happens, you’re gonna hear a lot of whining about the liberal media persecution of poor ol’ Governor Goodolboy. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/177 "2011-08-31T04:35:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Whatever happens, you’re gonna hear a lot of whining about the liberal media persecution of poor ol’ Governor Goodolboy. And that’s why I think he will survive for a surprising amount of time. He has an amazing, and frankly baffling ability to say or do incredibly dumb things and have them bounce off him with nary a bruise. If he gets the nomination I won’t be a bit surprised. I also won’t dare get involved in conjecture this far from election day on who has the best chance of winning in the general election though. I’ll hold off until some time around August of 2012 before I make any serious predictions about that. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/178 "2011-08-31T15:54:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Which Republican leaders have said that? Names and precise quotes, please. > **[Mitch McConnell Fox News | Obama One Term President | Video](https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/sen-mcconnell-making-obama-a-one-term-president-is-my-single-most-important-political-goal/)** > > Although Republican Senator Mitch McConnell was slightly unsure whether any of his Republicans colleagues seriously don't want to raise the debt ceiling, he was on much firmer ground regarding his own future political goals. On Fox News Sunday, Bret... They don’t hide it. McConnell had repeated it often, suggesting they will sabotage progress in the country for their own political ends. If you believe that pols should hurt the people and the country for potential political gain, you must be a tea bagger. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/179 "2011-08-31T18:46:31Z")
Perry has refused to provide past expense records and is being sued for that. In the meantime, he has added language to a school funding bill to close his expense records for the next 18 months (until after the Presidential elections). Perry claims the records need to be kept hidden for his safety. WaPo suggests he may be trying to hide strange expenses like scuba gear rental for his wife (and the ever present phalanx of State Troopers he takes everywhere) while meeting with Grover Norquist in the Bahamas and other things. > **[Perry’s travel, security costs will stay secret until after 2012](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/perrys-travel-security-costs-will-stay-secret-until-after-2012/2011/08/22/gIQANIZBjJ_story.html)** > > All the details about security costs for Texas Gov. Rick Perry are secret and will remain so until after the 2012 election, due to a recent law enacted in Texas. [http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Gov-Rick-Perry-maneuvers-to-keep-travel-details-2077591.php](http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Gov-Rick-Perry-maneuvers-to-keep-travel-details-2077591.php) [http://texas.onpolitix.com/news/57032/perry-can-keep-travel-records-secret](http://texas.onpolitix.com/news/57032/perry-can-keep-travel-records-secret) ---
**Author:** ![pantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@pantom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantom)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720/180 "2011-08-31T21:23:09Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I also won’t dare get involved in conjecture this far from election day on who has the best chance of winning in the general election though. I’ll hold off until some time around August of 2012 before I make any serious predictions about that. 😃 Hmph. A real profile in courage, arentcha? 😉 of course, I didn’t really wanna, I just got caught posting on my third (I think) glass of malbec… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rick-perry-for-president-thread/592720.md?page=10)