# The Right Wing Daily Show Is Coming!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 5, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941 "2007-02-05T16:11:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/81 "2007-02-07T19:45:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
YARGH? You seem to have missed all the Chippaddaetc references in that strip.

-Joe  
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didn’t know that **milroyj** was writing for them.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/82 "2007-02-07T19:47:04Z")

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That’s not fair, **ETF**. Cobwebs are funny.

Well, at least as funny as _Mallard Fillmore_, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/83 "2007-02-07T19:54:15Z")

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He did a hillarious segment on Barack Obama, too. Things like a little girl healed of cancer by touching the hem of his garment, and such. Very funny stuff! 😃

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/84 "2007-02-07T20:02:03Z")

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[QUOTE=wring]  
they did a hilarious (MHO) thing at one of the conventions where they got together a focus group: a tree hugger, a lesbian, a black, a gay guy etc. then pitted them against each other “tree hugger, how does that make you feel?”  
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Specifically, he was asking about “union man’s” response to whether he should get a Bronco or a Prius. Good stuff.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/85 "2007-02-07T20:09:19Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
Speaking of which, I notice that the esteemed font of righteous humor _Mallard Fillmore_ still finds it excruciatingly funny to trot out Howard Dean and the great YARGH. Seriously, can we at least get some fresh material? It won’t be any funnier, but at least it won’t be so encrusted with cobwebs.  
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Being in Canada I don’t come across the strip often but you just have to love [his response to being parodied](http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/mallard070505.asp) in The Daily Show book “America”.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/86 "2007-02-07T20:21:05Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
Being in Canada I don’t come across the strip often but you just have to love [his response to being parodied](http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/mallard070505.asp) in The Daily Show book “America”.  
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What the hell? That has to be one of the least sane things I’ve seen all week. And that’s quite a long list.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/87 "2007-02-07T21:34:18Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
Being in Canada I don’t come across the strip often but you just have to love [his response to being parodied](http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/mallard070505.asp) in The Daily Show book “America”.  
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Did he ever respond to [this?](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2006/11/11/)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/88 "2007-02-07T21:41:57Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Did he ever respond to [this?](http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2006/11/11/)  
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[I](http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20061218.html) [thought](http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20061219.html) [these](http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20061220.html) [were](http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20061221.html) [better.](http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20061222.html)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/89 "2007-02-07T22:54:53Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
That’s not fair, **ETF**. Cobwebs are funny.

Well, at least as funny as _Mallard Fillmore_, anyway.  
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Actually, cobwebs woven by a spider on drugs are pretty funny. [Especially if the bug’s on caffeine.](http://www.cannabis.net/weblife.html).

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**Author:** ![KJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b2d939/32.png) [@KJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KJ)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/90 "2007-02-08T08:38:38Z")

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If it’s actually funny, I’ll watch it. But I don’t think it has much of a chance. I agree with those who say it’ll probably bomb because they’re aiming for “conservative” first and “humor” second, which does always seem to sound like immature whining.

The real problem is, The Daily Show is successful because it makes fun of the news media and points out the ridiculousness of it all. And the culture warriors at Fox News take themselves way too seriously to actually laugh at themselves. (Sometimes I feel like “liberal” is to “conservative” as “appreciates subtlety” is to “gets whooshed by sarcasm”, but that’s just my opinion. Largely influenced by Stephen Colbert’s stint at the White House Correspondent’s Dinner.)

But if it actually is funny, I’ll watch it. If I could give advice to the creators, it would be to do something to make it original and differentiate it from The Daily Show. Right now they’re coming across as a second-rate copy, too little too late; even the title “The Half Hour News Hour” sounds like a copy of “The Daily Show.” Put some stand-up comedians, or, hell, throw in a musical guest segment to give it something The Daily Show doesn’t have. Otherwise it’s just a lame knockoff.

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**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/91 "2007-02-08T16:32:59Z")

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After reading this thread I have come to question my own political biases. Am I just so liberal that I cannot find a conservative funny? I don’t think so, but the evidence is against me. For one thing, I stopped finding Dennis Miller funny once he went super conservative, though there do seem to be many who think the problem was with Miller, not me.

I thought that the problem is that there are a lot of liberals who have stand up routines or comedy shows (John Stewart for example) but that the other side is not conservatives doing comedy but conservative comedy. Then I realize how I found the book _Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them_ damn funny and that was definitely liberal comedy.

So, in an attempt to figure this out, could anyone please tell me of some good conservative comedians I can test myself on, or a good conservative humor book. Something so that I can see if I am just so biased that I cannot find the other side of the political spectrum funny.

If I can’t find something conservative humorous the only other option is that conservatives just aren’t funny, and that seems unlikely. There are too damn many of them out there for none of them to be able to tell a good joke.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/92 "2007-02-08T17:01:54Z")

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“South Park”'s a pretty conservative show and it’s funny. From what I heard about some of Chris Rock’s bits, he espouses some conservative ideals and he’s highly acclaimed (but I wouldn’t be able to vouch, since I don’t like stand-up as a medium). James Lileks is funny too (but not when he gets into politics, IMHO).

But yeah, for the most part, “Right-wing Daily Show” sounds like an idiotic idea. The “Daily Show”'s premise wasn’t “sardonic leftist view of the news”, it was “satire of television news” - the liberal view came matter-of-factly from the people behind the show. Going into a comedy project with the ostensible purpose of preaching a party-line is a guarantee for failure. Nobody wants to be preached to, not even the choir, when they’re looking to laugh.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/93 "2007-02-08T17:03:33Z")

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Mohammad Ali had an aftershave named after him. They asked him if Joe Frazer should have one. He replied an after shave named Joe Frazer wouldn’t smell good.  
A comedy program put on by people who believe they do gods work would not be funny. They take their mission way to seriously. They are in a grim battle to take over the world.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/94 "2007-02-08T18:03:17Z")

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[QUOTE=flight]  
…If I can’t find something conservative humorous the only other option is that conservatives just aren’t funny, and that seems unlikely. There are too damn many of them out there for none of them to be able to tell a good joke.  
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I pretty much always read a P.J. O’Rourke book when they come out, because he’s got a fairly sharp wit and _usually_ plays fair. Goes for the cheap shot sometimes. And has a tendency to go on and on about how he used to be a weed-smoking hippy, but has matured to alcoholism.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/95 "2007-02-08T18:32:57Z")

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[QUOTE=KJ]  
Put some stand-up comedians . . .  
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I know there are some but I couldn’t remember any names (except for Dennis Miller, who is not funny), so I started [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407584) thread in CS.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/96 "2007-02-08T18:35:12Z")

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This might be the appropriate time to apologize for bringing up the subject again, which no one is interested in and nobody wants to talk about, and stuff.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/97 "2007-02-08T18:36:37Z")

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[QUOTE=pizzabrat]  
“South Park”'s a pretty conservative show and it’s funny.  
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More libertarian than conservative. I think either Stone or Parker has gone on record as saying, “We hate conservatives, but we really, really hate liberals.”

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/98 "2007-02-08T18:40:25Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
Being in Canada I don’t come across the strip often but you just have to love [his response to being parodied](http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/mallard070505.asp) in The Daily Show book “America”.  
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I’m curious why I “have to love” something that’s not only unfunny but factually inaccurate?

I suppose I could love it, though, because it does demonstrate how big an idiot Tinsley is.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/99 "2007-02-08T19:49:38Z")

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[QUOTE=flight]  
After reading this thread I have come to question my own political biases. Am I just so liberal that I cannot find a conservative funny?  
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Conservatism is inherently unfunny, because

(1) there are too many sacred cows which are off-limits for jokes, most notably Christianity, government, and conservatives themselves (at least liberals aren’t shy about making fun of themselves).

(2) conservatism is a position for the haves, so their jokes tend to target the have-nots, which come across as mere bullying.

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**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-daily-show-is-coming/390941/100 "2007-02-08T20:52:39Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
More libertarian than conservative. I think either Stone or Parker has gone on record as saying, “We hate conservatives, but we really, really hate liberals.”  
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I have both heard this and recognize it as true based on what they produce. I also enjoy most of their stuff, but as I am liberal leaning towards libertarian, this doesn’t help me out.

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