# The Right Wing Paranoids Are Right Again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 13, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667 "2016-05-13T12:49:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/21 "2016-05-13T14:25:21Z")
Rex Huppke, Chicago Tribune: > **[Obama directive on transgender students will inflame ill-informed 'bathroom...](https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/rex-huppke/ct-obama-transgender-students-bathrooms-huppke-20160512-story.html)** > > Obama directive tells schools to not ban transgender students from bathrooms “The real problem here is not that supporters of the North Carolina law or the people and politicians who, as you read this, will be flipping out over the administration’s letter to school districts don’t understand gender identity. The problem is that they don’t want to understand gender identity.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/22 "2016-05-13T14:32:39Z")
Actually, a girlfriend of mine was put in the hospital that year because she was forced to use the men’s room by a bar manager who knew that she was transgendered, and got the shit kicked out of her. I would have said, “Where did you hear this? Sounds great to me!” What would your response have been, **astorian**? “I’m just jerking your chain, dude. I don’t even know the difference between ‘transvestite’ and ‘transsexual’”? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/23 "2016-05-13T14:33:25Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Yes yes, it is exceptionally horrible that the President wants schools to comply with existing Federal law… Which existing Federal law are you referring to? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/24 "2016-05-13T14:36:21Z")
Nostradumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/25 "2016-05-13T14:37:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Which existing Federal law are you referring to? Title IX. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/26 "2016-05-13T14:38:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Title IX. Can you quote the section that applies? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/27 "2016-05-13T14:47:03Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can you quote the section that applies? [This thread discusses that issue in depth](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=792259). You should take a look. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/28 "2016-05-13T14:56:00Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Nostradumbass. Excellent! ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/29 "2016-05-13T15:02:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Even if he did, he’d still be wrong, since the President didn’t order schools to do anything regarding bathrooms and transvestites. Yes but transvestites are not necessarily homosexuals either and he uses the word homophobia so perhaps he meant to say transgender. Can we proceed based on the assumption that is what he meant rather than picking on some stupid error in definitions? Otherwise this will turn into a thread about how the Op made a definitional mistake. The fact of the matter is that this push for transgender rights might not be politically possible without the successful push for gay rights. There were concerns expressed by the right that extending rights to gays would start us down a slippery slope. Polygamy and trans rights were among the concerns expressed by the right and frequently dismissed as paranoia by the left. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/30 "2016-05-13T15:07:12Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Polygamy and trans rights were among the concerns expressed by the right and frequently dismissed as paranoia by the left. _Sliiick_. You slipped polygamy right in there to muddy the waters. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/31 "2016-05-13T15:12:18Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > In 2008, if I had stated on these boards, “Barack Obama will order schools to let transvestites to use the ladies room at all American schools, and will threaten any school that does not comply,” what do you think everyone would have said? I can’t guess. Could you dig up the thread where anyone ever made such a prediction? > [@](#): > > Czarcasm: “Cripes, Astorian, you need to lay off Fox News! It’s making you delusional.” > > Miller: “Don’t be ridiculous. That will never, ever happen. That’s a typical deranged Rush Limbaugh fantasy.” Interesting that you’ve had to construct an imaginary conversation to prove that your fantasy isn’t a fantasy. > [@](#): > > Well, today it is actually HAPPENING. SO, are any liberals sheepishly mumbling, “Er, gosh, I guess I was totally wrong?” Nope. I wonder why… perhaps because this exchange only took place in your totally healthy and not-at-all deluded brain? > [@](#): > > They’re yelling, “YESSSSS!!! About damn time! And to all you stupid homophobic bigots: IN YOUR FACE!” Hey, looks like you actually said something true. In your face, you stupid homophobic bigot. There. Feel better now? Oh, by the way, any sheepish mumbling for paying those sky-high prices on guns and ammo in the wake of Obama’s gun ban that never happened? Thought not. Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/32 "2016-05-13T15:12:31Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Polygamy and trans rights were among the concerns expressed by the right and frequently dismissed as paranoia by the left. Given that (according to Wikipedia) leftists have been using the acronym “LGBT” since 1988, that’s more than a quarter century since the left has dismissed transphobia as paranoia. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/33 "2016-05-13T15:12:52Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > The fact of the matter is that this push for transgender rights might not be politically possible without the successful push for gay rights. There were concerns expressed by the right that extending rights to gays would start us down a slippery slope. Polygamy and trans rights were among the concerns expressed by the right and frequently dismissed as paranoia by the left. Why is it that the same people who bitch endlessly about gov’t over-reach, are consistently the same people that can’t to seem to mind their own fucking business about what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms and bathroom stalls? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/34 "2016-05-13T15:15:16Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yes but transvestites are not necessarily homosexuals either and he uses the word homophobia so perhaps he meant to say transgender. Can we proceed based on the assumption that is what he meant rather than picking on some stupid error in definitions? Otherwise this will turn into a thread about how the Op made a definitional mistake. > > The fact of the matter is that this push for transgender rights might not be politically possible without the successful push for gay rights. There were concerns expressed by the right that extending rights to gays would start us down a slippery slope. Polygamy and trans rights were among the concerns expressed by the right and frequently dismissed as paranoia by the left. Sorry, but slippery slope implies that the subsequent extensions of the ideas are negative things, or at least make the situation worse. Extending rights to those who have been overlooked by the majority is a positive thing. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/35 "2016-05-13T15:16:45Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Why is it that the same people who bitch endlessly about gov’t over-reach, are consistently the same people that can’t to seem to mind their own fucking business about what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms and bathroom stalls? That’s right-It isn’t anybody’s business who’s picture I’m drooling over or which body part I’m fiddlin’ with when I’m in that stall. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/36 "2016-05-13T15:18:55Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Yes yes, it is exceptionally horrible that the President wants schools to comply with existing Federal law and stop being shitheads about this issue. The horror…_the HORROR!!!_ > > Meanwhile the bigoted right still has been unable to provide a single example of a transgendered individual assaulting women or children in a restroom because of this. However, bigoted right-wingers HAVE been sending men into women’s washrooms in order to cause trouble. So… They don’t want anyone who looks exactly like a woman, dresses like a woman and has actual breasts to use a woman’s washroom, and they’ll send men into women’s washrooms to harass women in order to prove this point. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/37 "2016-05-13T15:29:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > However, bigoted right-wingers HAVE been sending men into women’s washrooms in order to cause trouble. You know how the wingnuts operate… if our fears aren’t real, then dammit, we’ll MAKE them real. Shows you dumb lib’ruls. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/38 "2016-05-13T15:33:57Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yes but transvestites are not necessarily homosexuals either and he uses the word homophobia so perhaps he meant to say transgender. Can we proceed based on the assumption that is what he meant rather than picking on some stupid error in definitions? Otherwise this will turn into a thread about how the Op made a definitional mistake. Too late; we’re already there and you’re the next contestant! > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > The fact of the matter is that this push for transgender rights might not be politically possible without the successful push for gay rights. There were concerns expressed by the right that extending rights to gays would start us down a slippery slope. Polygamy and trans rights were among the concerns expressed by the right and frequently dismissed as paranoia by the left. No, they weren’t “frequently dismissed as paranoia”; they were consistently dismissed as loathsome and stupid things to be concerned about, inconsequential and of no significance to anyone not participating in the events in question. Those “concerns” were ridiculed and made a target for mockery to counter the contempt and hatred they expressed and the baseless fears that they showed in those that voiced their “concerns”. I have no idea how you could have misread events and people to try and characterize them so inaccurately; perhaps you were dropped on your head as a baby? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/39 "2016-05-13T15:41:27Z")
“Right-wing paranoids” also predicted that same-sex marriage was going to lead to the legalization of pedophilia and bestiality. How’s that going?\* \*FTR - in the event these things happen in 2024 I will still be against them. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667/40 "2016-05-13T15:44:59Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “Right-wing paranoids” also predicted that same-sex marriage was going to lead to the legalization of pedophilia and bestiality. How’s that going? They pretty much have to go together, y’know. It’s hard finding pets that are above legal age. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-right-wing-paranoids-are-right-again/754667.md?page=3)