# The Rise of “Karens”?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 20, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320 "2023-07-20T18:54:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/282 "2025-09-10T00:41:14Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The **label** being applied to her has misogyny baked in, I do think that’s evident

Yes, I concur. And in this case, she wasnt one anyhow.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/283 "2025-09-10T00:56:34Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> There are no _rules_, other than you are allowed to keep a baseball if it’s hit in the stands.

Informally, if the ball is of historical significance to the club, or personal significance to the player (rookie first HR), you’re supposed to return it to them. Customarily, adults will often let the child have it.

It doesn’t seem like that’s what happened here, though.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/284 "2025-09-10T00:58:52Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Informally, if the ball is of historical significance to the club, or personal significance to the player (rookie first HR), you’re supposed to return it to them. Customarily, adults will often let the child have it.

Fair enough.

Additionally, if you’re at a cubs game, and the opposing team hits a home run, you’re supposed to throw it back!

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**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/285 "2025-09-11T00:37:07Z")

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the woman has been offered $5000 for the ball by some company, but with conditions , so maybe now she’s being rewarded for her behavior

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/286 "2025-09-11T00:43:03Z")

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Yeah, but she then kinda has to out herself, which I can’t see her doing. I suppose this can be done without her revealing her identity, but I sure as hell wouldn’t accept $5K for that (and the ball is required to be signed by her, “I’m sorry,” according to the report I read.)

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/287 "2025-09-20T15:48:49Z")

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> **[Chicago Starbucks Worker Did Not Write 'Loser' On Order Honoring Charlie...](https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/09/19/viral-video-claiming-starbucks-worker-wrote-loser-on-order-honoring-charlie-kirk-is-false-company-says/)**
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> A Starbucks spokesperson said time-stamped surveillance footage shows an employee did not write the note, which had prompted online outrage and the store's temporary closure this week.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/288 "2025-09-20T16:21:57Z")

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Crazy. That’s my local starbucks.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/289 "2025-09-21T01:40:23Z")

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“The controversy started with a post Tuesday from Jacqueline Garretson, who, according to her X bio, is the Illinois state director for The Conservative Caucus”

Quelle surprise!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rise-of-karens/987320/290 "2025-09-21T03:15:26Z")

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That is very uncool.

I hope she’s getting called out on social media. Her Mother as well.

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