# The Rocky and Bullwinkle Thread (hokey smoke!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 5, 2000, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131 "2000-09-05T20:04:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/21 "2000-09-06T04:39:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \*  
> \*\*…why have I only chosen sucky movies to go to lately? \*\*

Mebbe it’s you what’s makin’ 'em sucky…

I, also, love Rocky and Bullwinkle, bad animation and all. Jay Ward is probably to blame for my warped sense of humor. I remember R & B when it was on originally, and have all eight of the videos. My kids love 'em, too, even tho a lot of the humor goes right over their heads. I mean, really…the ruby yacht of Omar Kayaam?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/22 "2000-09-06T04:51:57Z")

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Not all the Crusader Rabbit videos are illegal. There were one or two legally issued before the lid clamped down. But they’re hard to find.

The earlier Crusader Rabbits ha alomst non-existent animation. They were often simply shots of stills, with a little rudimentary motion. The later ones approached R&B levels.

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/23 "2000-09-06T10:20:16Z")

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A person that watches Rocky and Bullwinkle for the animation levels is like a person that goes to the Louvre because they have a great snack bar. The cartoon is immensely wonderful even though the animation isn’t great by any conventional means. The humor and laughs would be enough to make a cartton with Clutch Cargo like animation easy to watch.

As for my favorite bits, anything with “Moose and Squirrel” in it, quickly followed by Peabody and Sherman, Dudley Do Right, Fractured Fairy Tales, and George of the Jungle.

I will now spend the rest of the day saying “Presto” to myself.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/22080_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/24 "2000-09-06T11:02:01Z")

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Love Rocky and Bullwinkle, Love Fractured Fairy Tales, absolutely LOVE George of the Jungle…

Absolutely hate the bozos who ruined them by making the idiot movies… \<sigh\> Oh well…

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/25 "2000-09-06T12:37:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Little Nemo \*  
> \*\*If you’re a Jay Ward fan, keep an eye out for video copies of his first cartoon series, _Crusader Rabbit_. Unfortunately, being illegal, they’re almost impossible to find. \*\*

I am not familiar with this cartoon. Why is it illegal? Is he a very _naughty_ rabbit?

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/26 "2000-09-06T12:52:13Z")

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Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!

Again?

ROAR!

Hmm, I usually take a 7 and 7/8ths.

Count me as a Rocky and Bullwinkle fan. I’m also very partial to Professor Peabody and his Wayback Machine and his boy, Sherman (“Every dog should have a boy.”)

I’ve asked before and I’ll ask again: What was the real story between Nell Fenwick and Horse? And what was Inspector Fenwick doing in the barracks after lights out?

Did Jay Ward and his shop also do “Underdog?”

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/27 "2000-09-06T13:57:36Z")

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I did get some interesting facts out of “The Moose that Roared,” but the general writing style is unbearable. Turns out Jay Ward hated the animation, too—it was done on the cheap in Mexico, and it wasn’t till the last season or two he could get the money from General Mills to have it done in the U.S. (R & B ran from 1959–64).

Have you guys seen Aesop or Peabody RECENTLY? I think they’re the kind of segments that are clever when you’re six, but when you see 'em again as an adult, “the charm doth wear apace.” Rocky & Bullwinkle are as clever as ever, though . . .

I must add, I HATE “Fractured Flickers.” As a silent movie fan, it pains me to see them chopped up and made all camp and quaint and “oh, weren’t these awful old films hilarious?”

P.S. How old were y’all when you first got the pun behind “Boris Badenov?” I just had to explain it to my 20-something Movieline editor this year!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2000, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/28 "2000-09-07T06:12:45Z")

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> I am not familiar with this cartoon. Why is it illegal? Is he a very naughty rabbit?

The main problem was the numerous nude scenes by a then underage Traci Lords.

Not buying that? Okay. I’m not familiar with all the details but my understanding is that Rhino Brothers (a video and music distributer) planned to release the entire original _Crusader Rabbit_ series on video. But after they produced and released the first two tapes (_Crusader Rabbit vs the State of Texas_ and _Crusader Rabbit vs the Pirates_) 20th Century Fox filed an lawsuit. Apparently the people that Rhino had bought the video rights from no longer owned them to sell. Eventually a compromise was reached; Rhino was allowed to sell their existing tapes but they could not produce or sell any more after those were gone.

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**Author:** ![hypergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/49beb7/32.png) [@hypergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hypergirl)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2000, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/29 "2000-09-09T02:40:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Little Nemo \*  
> **From a technical standpoint, _Crusader Rabbit_ is to _Rocky & Bullwinkle_ what _Rocky & Bullwinkle_ is to _The Lion King_.**

[complete and utter hijack]

I LOVE the Lion King. It is my favorite Disney movie and one of my favorite movies. The music is good and Jeremy Irons makes such a cool villain. God I love that movie!

[/complete and utter hijack]

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**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2000, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-thread-hokey-smoke/32131/30 "2000-09-09T03:01:33Z")

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['nother hijack]You know any more words to the Super Chicken theme song?

Here are all that I remember (besides the lines you mentioned)

When you think your life’s in danger  
when you’re threatened by a stranger  
when you think that you might take a lickin"  
(bawk, bawk, bawk, bawk)  
There is someone waiting  
who will hurry up and rescue you.  
Just caaalllll for Super Chicken!  
(bawk, bawk, bawk, bawk)  
Caaalllll for Super Chicken! [/'nother hijack]

And yes, I adore Rocky and Boris also.

I think my brother may have actually liked the movie, but I can’t remember for sure if that was the one he was talking about. Anybody else like it? (I haven’t seen it yet.)

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