Current high-tax regions are experiencing subpar economic growth. Your claim of high taxes causing economic development was unfounded.
You are deluding yourself. A very, very small percentage or poor people ever make it out. Your system offers them little more than a lottery ticket. There are millions of hard working poor who are stuck there because the system is stacked against them. Your system lets a very few out, and the rest pass the cycle on to their children.
You should be very afraid. Even Caligula understood about bread and circuses.
He’s right “*mostly *always lose” is better.
Not if you do the sauce right. Then it’s just yummy.
Thanks, but it’s a minor point and it looks like even it was being heavily contested in that thread. And I’d still rather live in Sweden, so.
You don’t think it will occur to them on their own, after years of hard work, only to learn the system is stacked against them?
There are 300 million Americans. At least half (probably more than half) are descendants of immigrants and not of the original colonists that lived on North American soil in 1776. Most of the immigrants (European or Asian) came to this country with virtually no money. By your logic, the majority of 300 million Americans today should be poor because you say only a “very very small percentage of poor people” ever make it out.
The current demographics of the United States of America proves otherwise.
No, I want the common people to have power; you want them to have none. You want the wealthy to have free rein in the economic realm because that means that the common people will be unable to fight back; you want to restrict the power of the government because that’s the only way the common people can exercise power.
Especially since one of the few functions of the government the libertarians want is the police; which in this context means that while the government won’t help the common people, it’ll stamp down on any who get desperate enough to try violence. Just like the good old days in other words, where the government and the businesses worked together to crush the majority of the population.
The rich are parasitic vermin. As for the poor, they are already dependent and always have been. Letting them starve to death like you want won’t change that, except by killing them.
Garbage. Most people never have benefited much by their hard work, and never will. The rich get their money by extracting it from the people who actually do work hard and innovate; the people who do the actual work get little in return for it.
No, under your system they can work hard and die young, or not work and die younger. And either way they stay poor. Poor, and slaves in all but name; with the kind of mistreatment that implies.
That was then, this is now. They would be much more likely to stay poor now.
Nonsense. The rich are and have always been the enemy of the poor; actively trying to exploit them and do them harm.The poor should always fear and hate the rich out of self preservation, because the rich hate and fear the poor. What we have in America is a one way class war where one side, the common people refuses to acknowledge what is happening even as they are driven ever farther into subjugation.
Yes of course, there’s always some excuse isn’t there?
Your math is faulty. I suggest you read up on something called “pedigree collapse”. Most Americans who descended from immigrants share many of the same ancestors, so it is faulty to point out that most immigrants make it if they try. They don’t; why do you think African Americans are proportionally over-represented in the lower economic class?
Precisely. The wealthy are united on the one issue of getting more; the masses fragmented by culture wars incited by Fox “News”.
Excerpt from the following article: http://www.amconmag.com/article/2002/nov/18/00014
“One demographic study concluded that, had there been no immigration after 1790, the settlers’ posterity alone—including African slaves’ and freemen’s descendants—would have grown by 1990 to approximately half the size of the actual population, which implies roughly half of Americans still have roots in the founding stock whose existence the [Nation of Immigrants] creed denies.”
It’s an article that tilts the immigrant numbers in your favor not mine. In any case, the math doesn’t change. The majority of American citizens today should be stuck in poverty. I see that they are not. It does not compute.
Because they are not making money.
Why did Jewish and Asian immigrants have a higher ratio of economic success even considering no help from affirmative action? Because they found a way to earn more money.
I assume since you feel so strongly against government aid you’re gonna return the government grants you used for your education.
Gets popcorn to watch hypocritical self serving justification and/or backpeddling by you
Another example of big govt squandering taxpayer dollars.
And to what do you attribute this disparity?
So now $92,000 a year is the bottom threshold for middle class? Way to move the goal posts.
Median income for US families is something like $58K (cite). A definition of “middle class” that is almost double the median is, almost by definition, meaningless.
Regards,
Shodan
As I explained in another thread, I will respond to any prima facie argument you make regarding this. Until such time as you do so, you only keep showing your inability to construct an argument.
You overlooked this. Glad to help.
And this:
Gosh, if it were anybody else, I would think you had carefully cherry-picked!
You’re showing how hollow and hypocritical your words are. Little Rand-wannabe can’t even pay for his own education.
lol