# The Rules by Ellen Fein **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 23, 2000, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-by-ellen-fein/23275 "2000-06-23T03:19:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2000, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-by-ellen-fein/23275/61 "2000-07-04T17:46:12Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Lux Fiat \* \*\ ***Lux Fist**?? Hey now. This is the SDMB, not the BDSM. > [@](#): > > Doh! Typo! Honest! > > Understand that I’m not talking about normal decent people who don’t get dates because they’re shy. I’m talking about people who act in a certain way (note the word “act”) to get a mate. At best, their relationships are like scripted plays. At worst, they end up resenting an entire gender because their hard work isn’t paying off. \*\* I entirely agree- I think we’re saying similar things actually. I was saying that _IF_ someone is going to play a role/use a script/whatever, the “nice guy” one is probably better, because it generally only hurts one person, and it’s themselves. The “Diabolical Asshole” on the other hand tends to jerk the other person around more than themselves. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2000, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-by-ellen-fein/23275/62 "2000-07-04T21:59:22Z")
Lux Fiat wrote: > [@](#): > > Or “Men are from Mars, and Why Won’t the Women Visit Us There? What’s So Great About Venus? Hypocrites!” What’s so great about Venus? Venus is hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhot! (900 degrees Fahrenheit on the surface, as a matter of fact) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-by-ellen-fein/23275.md?page=3)