# the rules of this school piss me off (and i don't even attend) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 28, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148 "2003-08-28T06:49:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/21 "2003-08-28T13:57:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Why do I keep having devilish flashbacks of John Belushi in “Animal House?” > > Little Devil Voice: Go on… fuck her… here’s your chance… do it… do it… > > Little Angel Voice: Don’t you dare put a hand on that sweet divine young girl. > > Little Devil Voice: Oh shut the fuck up your pussy. Go on! Do it! Fuck her! Fuck her now! nitpick: Although Belushi’s “Bluto” was the icon of that film, IIRC, these lines were spoken by Tom Hulce’s character. Well, actually his “good” and “bad” conscience figures. ---
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/22 "2003-08-28T14:02:24Z")
Ah, lovely Lynchburg. As Faith Prince, who hails from Lynchburg, once said. “Lynchburg. Where no one ever leaves. When I was a kid, we moved nine times. In the SAME ZIP CODE.” One of my college roommates thought about going to Liberty. It would have been right up her alley. And I’m not saying that in a mean way - she liked religious rules and settings, and she would have been in a good place. In the meantime, never fail, when we pass Liberty on the way to my cousin’s in Western Virginia, my dad typically suggests it as a grad school for me. He thinks he’s funny. Ava ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/23 "2003-08-28T14:02:52Z")
Didn’t you forget one? Independent Thought will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the faculty administration. ---
**Author:** ![dwc1970](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@dwc1970](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwc1970)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/24 "2003-08-28T14:18:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Publius \* > \*\*I beleive **Guinastasia** is referring to Bob Jones University, a similar bastion of fascism in South Carolina. > > My mom’s friend took great pride in having been expelled from that school. \*\* Please do tell. Curious minds want to know what your mom’s friend did to get expelled. ---
**Author:** ![dwc1970](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@dwc1970](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwc1970)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/25 "2003-08-28T14:29:19Z")
Does anyone else find it odd that a place that calls itself **Liberty** imposes so many ridiculous restrictions on its students? ---
**Author:** ![susan\_foster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@susan\_foster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan_foster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/26 "2003-08-28T14:41:34Z")
Sorry, but I have to say it - if you don’t like it, leave. No one is chaining your friend to the wall. She made the choice to go to this school - I am sure she had the opportunity to read materials provided by the school before she went - it’s her own fault for not educating herself. Some people might not mind living by these rules - and it is their own free choice. I have my own life rules/guidelines that other people may not agree with - but I would hope that you would not get angry when I make the choice to live by these rules, just as I don’t get offended when you make choices that I might not agree with. Susan ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/27 "2003-08-28T14:50:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SlickRoenick \* > \*\* > [ul] > > [li]Association with those consuming alcohol [/li] > [/ul] > > \*\* Am I reading this right? Does this mean that if I went to this school, I couldn’t associate with my own grandmother? Or the other 76% of the population that use alcohol? Wow. Just… wow. These rules are so ridiculous that I can’t help but laugh. “What’s that? A copy of _Saving Private Ryan_?! Get out of our school and don’t even think of coming back!” ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/28 "2003-08-28T14:54:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Boo Boo Foo \* > \*\*Why do I keep having devilish flashbacks of John Belushi in “Animal House?” > > Little Devil Voice: Go on… fuck her… here’s your chance… do it… do it… > > Little Angel Voice: Don’t you dare put a hand on that sweet divine young girl. > > Little Devil Voice: Oh shut the fuck up your pussy. Go on! Do it! Fuck her! Fuck her now! \*\* Suck her tits! Squeeze her buns! You know she wants it! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/29 "2003-08-28T15:05:23Z")
neutron: IIRC, places that have rules against “associating with those drinking alcohol” define the term to mean "sitting there with them while they’re drinking, or going to parties where alcohol is served. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/30 "2003-08-28T15:07:35Z")
You think that’s bad, when I was a freshman, some of our professors wouldn’t let us smoke in class. (PoorYorick, University of Oklahoma, Class of '79). ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/31 "2003-08-28T15:09:24Z")
Ah, I see. Well, does that include eating dinner with Grandma while she’s drinking a glass of wine? ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/32 "2003-08-28T17:34:04Z")
IMHO, it is this sort of thing, (in addition of course to the "shoving it down others’ throats), that puts atheists in such a snit. A person can believe in God, and be a christian, which used to mean, (before some of these ridiculous fundies took it for their own), believing in John 3:16, without being resorting to the silliness as written above. As someone else said, too many deacons, and other religious leaders take it upon themselves to “interpret” what they believe the rules are. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/33 "2003-08-28T18:07:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by PoorYorick \* > \*\*You think that’s bad, when I was a freshman, some of our professors wouldn’t let us smoke in class. > > (PoorYorick, University of Oklahoma, Class of '79). \*\* Um, unless you’re joking, you do realize that at most schools nowadays, you can only smoke out doors, right? (I’m sure I’m being whooshed). Yep, I was talking about BoJo. They’re pretty out there. BTW, the guys who run Landover Baptist were expelled from Liberty. That’s where Landover got its start, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wonko_The_Sane)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/34 "2003-08-28T18:31:52Z")
What if you go to a communion service and they have bread and… wine? I had a teacher in High School, and in Bible Class, he had a very involved way of explaining how when Jesus turned water into wine, it wasn’t -really- wine, it was grape juice. I’ve always thought that the excess consumption was the problem, not the sitting next to someone who is having a cold frosty beer in moderation. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/35 "2003-08-28T18:40:13Z")
Well, it is a private university. Your friend is not being forced to go there. If she doesn’t like it, she is free to transfer. I don’t see the big deal here. ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/36 "2003-08-28T19:38:03Z")
I think some of the rules are too strict as well, but guess what? Nobody is forced to go there. And students who do choose to go there are told up front what is expected of them, just like every other religious school with rules. They are a private school, they can do what they want. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/37 "2003-08-28T19:56:39Z")
> [@](#): > > JerH wrote: > > for example, they have the movie ban that SlickRoenick references for Liberty, but theirs also covers PG-13 films, **as well as soundtracks for the movies** What the HELL?!?! I am a big soundtrack fan. I have been since I was 14. And I don’t mean those “compilations” soundtracks with the collection of pop songs from the movie, I mean _soundtrack_ soundtrack. Orchestral scores composed by John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, Hans Zimmer, Ennio Morricone, and so forth. It’s just damned _orchestral music!_ The kind that they play on the _Classical music_ radio stations! (Pretty much the only stations I’ll hear it played.) It’s like _Classical_ music! Sometimes you can’t tell the damned difference between film music and Classical if someone didn’t tell you! What is their damned problem? Once again, no student should go to that school (it was Bob Jones in the no soundtrack case) if they can’t abide by the rules, and I sure as hell wouldn’t go there (even if the other rules weren’t full of shit as well), because I’m not giving up my Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams scores. And hell! I haven’t seen all the damned movies that these soundtracks are for (I buy them for the composer, not the movie) and I don’t even know what the movies are about! What the hell. What a bunch of freaky rules. (And yes, once again, I marvel how they find students to put up with it.) ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/38 "2003-08-28T20:46:56Z")
Put me in with the “if you don’t like it leave it” crowd . I knew a couple kids in High School who had pretty much those values. And they probably ended up at a school with a simial code(for some odd reason I never kept in touch with them :)) There is a market for places that strict cause some students want it, and they should exist for those people who feel most comfortable in that type of environment. It ain’t my cup of Long Island Tea but, if you want to try to be holy and pure around other holy and pure people, good for you that there are some. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/39 "2003-08-28T20:52:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Um, unless you’re joking, you do realize that at most schools nowadays, you can only smoke out doors, right? > > (I’m sure I’m being whooshed). > \*\* Yeah, it was a semi-whoosh. I just thought the contrast between my undergrad years when some professors _did_ let you smoke in class as compared to the OP was pretty funny. Maybe not:) ---
**Author:** ![SlickRoenick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SlickRoenick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlickRoenick)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148/40 "2003-08-28T21:00:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ivylass \* > **Your friend is not being forced to go there. If she doesn’t like it, she is free to transfer.** Gotta finish what’s been started > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by SnoopyFan_ > **And students who do choose to go there are told up front what is expected of them, just like every other religious school with rules.** Up front they were told about curfews, no leaving campus without school AND parent permissions, dress code (business attire throughout the day), and the like. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by dwc1970_ > **Does anyone else find it odd that a place that calls itself Liberty imposes so many ridiculous restrictions on its students?** I do > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Fretful Porpentine_ > **I’m pretty disturbed that they can fine students for things like “immorality” and “disobedience / disrespect” without clearly defining what these terms mean.** It’s very stupid to me that this place can fine “immorality” even when there is no physical damage is done to anyone or any property. I can understand a cop giving a fine for speeding or something, but i can’t fathom being fined $150 for [ul] [li]Immorality[/li][li]Failure of three (3) Christian/Community Services without reconciliation[/li][li]Non-participation[/li][/ul] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-rules-of-this-school-piss-me-off-and-i-dont-even-attend/198148.md?page=3)