# The Russians are Coming! Russian bombers seen off California coast! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 13, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674 "2014-06-13T02:00:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/1 "2014-06-13T02:00:43Z")
NORAD scrambled fighters after Russian bombers seen off California coast. They’re still flying Tupolev Tu-95’s? Why not go the North Korean route and use a Trebuchet? [Oh well.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXGep9RB34) ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/2 "2014-06-13T02:03:04Z")
All your links are messed up. Don’t use quotes in the URLs. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/3 "2014-06-13T02:03:39Z")
Not sure if this is serious or a joke but, none of your links work. ---
**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/4 "2014-06-13T02:12:21Z")
[Here’s the first link](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story). Someone else can work out the others. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/5 "2014-06-13T02:39:05Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > They’re still flying [Tupolev Tu-95’s?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95) Why not? We’re still flying the [B-52](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress) which is even older. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. > [@beowulff](#): > > Don’t use quotes in the URLs. In the bad old days I seem to recall that you had to use them if you wanted more than one link in a post. Now they’re optional I think, but you have to use the plain-vanilla straight-up-and-down double quotes. Little Pig used slanted double left quotation marks which don’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/6 "2014-06-13T03:17:51Z")
[The Chicago Tribune](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story) > [@](#): > > According to NORAD, the Air Defense Identification Zone is defined as a zone of airspace which extends approximately 200 nautical miles out from the U.S. coastline. > > As part of its mission, NORAD tracks and identifies all aircraft flying in that zone before they enter sovereign airspace, which extends 12 miles from the coastline. > > Smith said Russian aircraft have flown within the ADIZ dozens of times over the past several years as part of training missions. [ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/06/russian-bombers-buzz-california/) > [@](#): > > Stadnyk said that the last five years there have been 50 intercepts of Russian military aircraft entering North American ADIZs. One of the new stealth F-22 Raptors’ first missions reportedly was such an interception back in 2007. > The last time the Russian bombers came close to the California coast was July 4, 2012. Both sources above say this happens an average of 10 times a year. So basically, not news. Or only news when people feel the need to make Putin and Russia out to be a bigger threat to us than they really are. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/7 "2014-06-13T04:31:18Z")
Don’t understand why the links do not work. Followed the instructions under “How to post pictures and links” under the SDMB FAQ - Technical issues for Posting. Its the way I always post links. Am using the Chrome web browser with a new Chromebook. (Why would that cause a problem?) Will go back to Windows. Blah. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/8 "2014-06-13T04:41:13Z")
Your links look like: > [@](#): > > http://”http//www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story” They should look like: [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story) ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/9 "2014-06-13T04:46:51Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > [NORAD scrambled fighters after Russian bombers seen off California coast.](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story) They’re still flying [Tupolev Tu-95’s?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95) Why not go the North Korean route and use a [Trebuchet?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet) reposted with quotation marks removed from your links ---
**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/10 "2014-06-13T05:10:50Z")
Wait, what was the question? Is OP asking if the Russians are still using the Tupolev Tu-95 (as bibliophage already said, yes, they are) or was this meant to go in MPSIMS? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/11 "2014-06-13T05:26:34Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > Your links look like: > > http://”http//www.chicagotribune.com…2.story” > > They should look like: > [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-russia-bombers-20140612,0,42652.story) Thanks beowulff. Too strange. I copied the links and set them up according to SDMB _but_ I did it in Google Docs (for the first time). Something must have been added. As I mentioned, just got the Chromebook. Thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/12 "2014-06-13T05:28:23Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > reposted with quotation marks removed from your links Thank you Magiver. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/13 "2014-06-13T05:35:33Z")
> [@seodoa](#): > > Wait, what was the question? Is OP asking if the Russians are still using the Tupolev Tu-95 (as bibliophage already said, yes, they are) or was this meant to go in MPSIMS? A blaring headline, (is California in peril?) then when reading the article it states, “Russian aircraft have flown within the ADIZ dozens of times over the past several years as part of training missions.” WTF? How is this news? Yeah, maybe should have been posted in MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/14 "2014-06-13T05:47:58Z")
**Moderator Action** Moving thread from General Questions to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share. ---
**Author:** ![busterpickle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@busterpickle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/busterpickle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/15 "2014-06-13T06:09:18Z")
Happens all the time with ships too. I was in the Navy for eight years, ships go on patrols to maintain relevant certifications and we’d get sent out, on occasion, to check out “stuff”. We’d see “stuff” and take pictures. None of the “stuff” was in our territorial waters. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/16 "2014-06-13T09:04:57Z")
The do it to us over the North Sea all the time. We send a couple of fighters, they give a friendly wave, and everyone goes home for tea. Of course it happens the other way around as well. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/17 "2014-06-13T13:48:36Z")
> [@electronbee](#): > > Happens all the time with ships too. > > I was in the Navy for eight years, ships go on patrols to maintain relevant certifications and we’d get sent out, on occasion, to check out “stuff”. > > We’d see “stuff” and take pictures. None of the “stuff” was in our territorial waters. I was told a dirty little secret back-in-the-day re: coldwar cat and mouse between ships at sea: “Do you see that ship over there?” “Yeah. The front end look like its been in an accident.” “Yup. Probably happened at sea; sometimes ships play cat and mouse with each other in the middle of the ocean when nobody is looking.” “Really? C’mon…” “Well, let me put it this way: do you Really Think a trained crew would ever be That Bad at docking…?” ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/18 "2014-06-13T16:38:11Z")
The want Fort Ross back. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/19 "2014-06-13T17:16:52Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > I was told a dirty little secret back-in-the-day re: coldwar cat and mouse between ships at sea: > > “Do you see that ship over there?” > “Yeah. The front end look like its been in an accident.” > “Yup. Probably happened at sea; sometimes ships play cat and mouse with each other in the middle of the ocean when nobody is looking.” > “Really? C’mon…” > “Well, let me put it this way: do you Really Think a trained crew would ever be That Bad at docking…?” My “cat and mouse” do you mean “chicken”? Because “cat and mouse” means chasing each other. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674/20 "2014-06-14T15:27:16Z")
That said, I’ve realized news reports often refer to ships “playing cat and mouse”, although I’ve yet to work out exactly what they mean by that. They seem to imply it involves possible collisions. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-russians-are-coming-russian-bombers-seen-off-california-coast/690674.md?page=2)