# The San Diego Comic Con has a small problem **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 15, 2023, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061 "2023-07-15T08:06:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/61 "2023-07-18T01:41:49Z")
> [@Ponderoid](#): > > I wonder how they’ll enforce this. Will there be people at the convention noting the names of every cosplayer portraying a struck character? Does this con enforce name badges? They won’t “enforce” it. If you violate the request and you ever want to work with people in either union, you risk losing that opportunity for life. People will find out the same way we find out that someone made a bunch of ill advised Tweets or wore an inappropriate Halloween costume in the deep dark past or participated in the Jan 6h riot. There will be thousands of pictures on social media or just stored on a hard drive. You will get outed one day and it won’t go well for you. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/62 "2023-07-18T01:55:32Z")
Ryan George: “Oh myyy God.” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/63 "2023-07-18T02:00:50Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > They won’t “enforce” it. If you violate the request and you ever want to work with people in either union, you risk losing that opportunity for life. Or, maybe, it will have absolutely no impact on your real life because you have exactly zero intersection with them besides the characters they portray. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/64 "2023-07-18T02:09:55Z")
Well obviously. It won’t affect my life either because I’ll be over 200 miles away and I’ve never worn a movie character costume in my life. They don’t care what most people do, only what people who wish to work with them in the future do. That’s how it was explicitly described in the like several posts up. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/65 "2023-07-18T02:13:33Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > They won’t “enforce” it. If you violate the request and you ever want to work with people in either union, you risk losing that opportunity for life. People will find out the same way we find out that someone made a bunch of ill advised Tweets or wore an inappropriate Halloween costume in the deep dark past or participated in the Jan 6h riot. There will be thousands of pictures on social media or just stored on a hard drive. You will get outed one day and it won’t go well for you. Kinda shows a part of why 89.9 percent of Americans say “no thanks” to unions. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/66 "2023-07-18T02:20:01Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Kinda shows a part of why 89.9 percent of Americans say “no thanks” to unions. …well, “89.9 percent of Americans say “no thanks” to unions” because many of that 89.9% tend to worship unrestrained capitalism and think unions are socialist and socialism is the work of the devil. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/67 "2023-07-18T02:27:51Z")
I wouldn’t say the entire 90% (rounding) care that strongly. Realistically, most of that don’t care as much as they care about having a job, and hoping it’s not too abusive. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/68 "2023-07-18T02:44:39Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > I wouldn’t say the entire 90% (rounding) care that strongly. …this is getting off-topic: but unions have been the subject of fairly militant propaganda campaigns for decades, and it isn’t any surprise that most Americans don’t understand the value and want no part in them. It _isn’t_ because of things like messy comms. And SAG really could have been clearer here. The comms from the WGA have been really good: part of the reason for that is that writers are really good at _writing_. But the other thing here is that apart from a commercial actors strike in 2000, SAG-AFTRA haven’t really taken any substantial industrial action since the 80’s. The WGA have plenty of people that were around during the last WGA strikes in 2007. They have existing systems, smaller group of people to wrangle. SAG-AFTRA simply doesn’t and they are playing a bit of catch-up. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/69 "2023-07-18T04:08:31Z")
Whereas in video the actors sound on point and concise while the writers appear bitter and unaccustemmed to speaking in public. Shocking! ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/70 "2023-07-18T04:13:26Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Whereas in video the actors sound on point and concise while the writers appear bitter and unaccustemmed to speaking in public. …not what I’ve experienced. The writers I’ve seen have been articulating their points on camera very well. Here’s David Simons: > **[We Talked To The Wire’s David Simon About The Writers Strike](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWqW49VhBJ4%2F)** > > David Simon, the creator of The Wire, says he’s on strike to protect new generations of writers and make sure they aren’t exploited by studios. He also expla... Alex O’Keefe today: [https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1681095462353350657](https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1681095462353350657) Can you give me an example of a writer appearing “bitter?” Because I wasn’t talking about individuals here. I’m talking about comms that are coming from the Guild. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/71 "2023-07-18T04:55:56Z")
You provided no examples whatsoever. Not shocking! ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/72 "2023-07-18T05:29:35Z")
It was more of a joke that writers write well and speak poorly and actors vice-versa. Calm down Beavis. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/73 "2023-07-18T05:35:12Z")
No trouble at all to treat your posts in this thread like a joke, B. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/74 "2023-07-18T05:38:25Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > It was more of a joke that writers write well and speak poorly and actors vice-versa. I dunno; what you said in post #69 didn’t come across to me as a joke, but rather, an observation based on actually seeing video of writers versus actors. If you’d actually intended it as a joke, it wasn’t worded well. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/75 "2023-07-18T05:42:42Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > There’s a line, and I think they crossed it. Feel free to disagree. I am a cosplayer, and the father of cosplayers, and we all disagree. Cosplaying as a film character right now _is_ a form of crossing the picket line. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/76 "2023-07-18T05:45:42Z")
Any? Even public domain ones? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/77 "2023-07-18T05:46:43Z")
What film character right now is in public domain? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/78 "2023-07-18T05:50:21Z")
Not here for your pedantry - I very obviously was following on from the earlier more precisely-worded guidelines from the guild. “refrain from promoting struck work, including past productions that would have been struck if produced today”. " avoid cosplaying anything TV or Film" Although I think my No-Face costume would be OK, I think my PJ LOTR Hobbit villager one is not. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/79 "2023-07-18T05:50:53Z")
Mickey Mouse as depicted in _Steamboat Willie_, of course! But how would you cosplay as that? Hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-san-diego-comic-con-has-a-small-problem/987061/80 "2023-07-18T05:51:02Z")
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