# The Sandman trailer - upd, now on Netflix **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921 "2022-06-09T14:27:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/41 "2022-06-10T15:10:28Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > No. It’s based on much earlier [comic characters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandman_(DC_Comics)) (the first predates the band America, but it’s more the 1974 one that was rebooted by Gaiman, although the pulp one also has an influence, like in the mask) as well as myth and fairy tale. That song just springs from the same [folklore character](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandman) Ah, I see the difference. Thank you for setting me straight. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/42 "2022-06-10T15:12:46Z")
Either. I’m looking for some easy-to-read fantasy/sci fi, something that’s not so fluffy it will give me an upset stomach, but is fun to consume. I should probably start a new thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/43 "2022-06-10T15:13:37Z")
Most of the Sandman titles were Graphic Novels weren’t they? I think there is only 1 book. As to Rick Riordan his titles are really YA, and are light, somewhat fluffy and quick reads. There are the 5 Percy Jackson books (Greek Demi-Gods in NY camp/school) and I would start with them. Rest of his books: > **[Rick Riordan | Bibliography](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Riordan#Bibliography)** > > Published individually first, then as an anthology titled Demigods and Magicians in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/44 "2022-06-10T15:14:50Z")
Sandman is comics, not novels (there are some short stories as well), but I would highly recommend them to anyone. They are not necessarily always easy-to-read, though, sometimes they go to dark places. But that’s balanced out by a lot of humour and worldbuilding. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/45 "2022-06-10T15:19:06Z")
More wisdom from Neil, Himself: > ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/46 "2022-06-10T15:22:37Z")
I’m a great fan of YA novels. In fact, maybe I should just go browse recent Newbery Award winners to find something to borrow from the library. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/47 "2022-06-10T15:23:17Z")
Thanks that sounds good. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/48 "2022-06-10T15:25:02Z")
Right, but using it to explain the difference in hair color was Marvel’s invention. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/49 "2022-06-10T15:49:53Z")
What you want are _The Sandman_ issues no. 1–75 by Neil Gaiman. That sounds crazy, but if you go to the library you will find them collected as either 10 separate volumes or a 2-volume omnibus edition. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/50 "2022-06-10T15:50:51Z")
I can accept a non-white Death. Just as long as we avoid the “Black Death” puns which are too obvious to be at all funny. But a female John Constantine? No, that I can’t accept. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/51 "2022-06-10T16:00:12Z")
Johanna was an ancestor of John’s, straight out of the Sandman comics. However, in the comics, she lived in the late 18th - early 19th centuries and not the current day, and I don’t think she had a supernaturally prolonged life. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyEcks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnnyecks/32/18197_2.png) [@JohnnyEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnyEcks)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/52 "2022-06-10T16:42:22Z")
I wish they had used Ambrose Bierce instead. “You learn the basics, have a hideous experience in a graveyard, they give you a trenchcoat and steal your razor. Like an assembly line, really.” For those not familiar with the character, he’s a carbon-copy of John Constantine created when the author couldn’t get the rights. Apparently there’s a whole union of disreputable urban magicians. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/53 "2022-06-10T17:30:44Z")
> [@JohnnyEcks](#): > > For those not familiar with the character, he’s a carbon-copy of John Constantine created when the author couldn’t get the rights. Apparently there’s a whole union of disreputable urban magicians. As is Willoughby Kipling from Doom Patrol. Another Constantine ripoff/fill created when Grant Morrison couldn’t get the editor’s permission to use him. I’m super-excited for the series, and I find the bitching about casting is fucking ridiculous considering 1) Nobody’s seen them actually act, and 2) Gaiman OKs it, and 3) it’s part of the canon that the Endless appearance is based on the perceiver. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/54 "2022-06-10T17:50:41Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Either. I’m looking for some easy-to-read fantasy/sci fi, something that’s not so fluffy it will give me an upset stomach, but is fun to consume. The Sandman comics are of such high quality, they exist in that space where you wish you could erase your brain and experience them fresh for the first time. For those who **have** read them, the first two volumes of a full-cast audio production are on Audible and they’re truly excellent. About as close as you can get to seeing it with fresh eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/55 "2022-06-10T18:00:57Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > For those who **have** read them, the first two volumes of a full-cast audio production are on Audible and they’re truly excellent. About as close as you can get to seeing it with fresh eyes. Yes, they are excellent. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/56 "2022-06-10T18:17:52Z")
And I’m astonished that Gaiman is astonished that people want their live-action versions of comic book characters to look like the comic book characters. Would he be suprised that people prefer Patrick Stewart for Professor X over Louie Anderson? That they prefer Halle Berry for Storm over Rebel Wilson? That they prefer Christian Bale for Batman over DJ Qualls? That they prefer Tom Holland for Spider-Man over Warwick Davis? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/57 "2022-06-10T18:33:53Z")
Annotated Sandman Vol 1 & 2. They are huge fat books, and run about $35-$90 each. But at nearly six pounds, you get your money’s worth. Also try the Rivers of London Series By Ben Aaronovitch , but get the books, not the graphic novels to start. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’m a great fan of YA novels. The Hounds of the Morrigan. The Dark is Rising series. > [@DPRK](#): > > What you want are _The Sandman_ issues no. 1–75 by Neil Gaiman. The Annotated volumes are better, imho. Can we not turn this into yet another debate about race, or just split that off? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/58 "2022-06-10T18:35:54Z")
It sounds like they need to start putting trigger warnings on these things. “Warning: viewer may see main character with races, genders, and sexual orientations of humans they don’t like.” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/59 "2022-06-10T18:47:24Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > At the risk of thread drift… I’m looking for new stuff to read, and it sounds like the books this is based on, as well as related books, might fit the bill. Can i ask about them? If you want the Sandmanverse, you are facing an intimidating number of titles: > **[List of The Sandman spinoffs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Sandman_spinoffs)** > > After the DC comic book series The Sandman concluded with #75, numerous comics, novels and spin-offs made use of its characters, concepts and universe. > The Sandman was written by Neil Gaiman. > The Dreaming was a monthly title inspired by Neil Gaiman's Sandman that ran for 60 issues (with one special, "Trial and Error") from June 1996 to May 2001. The comic is set predominantly in Dream's realm "The Dreaming". > Lucifer was a monthly title written by Mike Carey, which began in June 2000 and ended... Including a current ongoing one. > **[DC Launches New Ongoing Series The Sandman Universe: Nightmare Country | DC](https://www.dc.com/blog/2022/01/18/dc-launches-new-ongoing-series-the-sandman-universe-nightmare-country)** > > JOIN HORROR SUPERSTAR JAMES TYNION IV ON A TERRIFYING RIDE INTO THE SANDMAN UNIVERSE WITH ‘NIGHTMARE COUNTRY’ > > DC Launches New Ongoing Series ‘The Sandman Universe: Nightmare Country’ April 2022 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/60 "2022-06-10T19:07:38Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Annotated Sandman Vol 1 & 2. They are huge fat books, and run about $35-$90 each. But at nearly six pounds, you get your money’s worth. I read the free sample from the Kindle app of my phone, and have the first book on hold from my library. Sadly, they won’t be good on my actual Kindle, which is black and white, but they look pretty good on my phone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921.md?page=4)