# The Sandman trailer - upd, now on Netflix

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921 "2022-06-09T14:27:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/121 "2022-06-12T01:10:13Z")

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No one said that.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/122 "2022-06-12T01:12:06Z")

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In the spirit of moving on, I am looking forward to this very much. I bought the first book as an e-book, but I’m not wild about the reading experience. I’m going to try one a different tablet, but I suspect a physical copy is in my future.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/123 "2022-06-12T01:12:21Z")

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Moderating:

I think we’ve beat the question of the race of the actress playing Death to death. Please drop the topic.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/124 "2022-06-12T01:30:26Z")

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Re: “she was a Chinese human (sorry I’m just hitting general reply….I’m on my phone and have never mastered snipping)”

Pictures were provided of Death with Caucasian skin, one of which was her as a literal human (as she does once a century) I noted that but then remembered once as a literal human she had alabaster skin as she usually does……so any point I had to make such as “Well she’s literally human there so of course her having caucasian skin doesn’t prove anything”

Was moot cause she also appeared as a Chinese human with alabaster skin

I was shooting any potential argument I could have made in the foot

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/125 "2022-06-12T01:30:44Z")

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Sorry …I just saw this. Noted

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/126 "2022-06-12T01:32:50Z")

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Looking at the cast, Lyta Hall will be making an appearance.

I wonder if the show could survive all the way until Morpheus dies and is replaced with Daniel.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/127 "2022-06-12T02:23:41Z")

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Speaking of cast…the older characters are inspired choices and a few others. Charles Dance, Gwen Christie, Stephen Fry…

The only misgiving is that I wasn’t cast as Hob Gadling. I knock that out of the park in my head when i read his stuff.

Trivia: I went to the same HS as one of the writers, Allan Heinberg. Not quite at the same time, though I think i accidentally levelled him in an alumni soccer game.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/128 "2022-06-12T08:15:45Z")

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nvm, saw the modnote.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/129 "2022-06-12T08:19:32Z")

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Here is some behind-the-scenes footage:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fK-Bl7gZ9s8/maxresdefault.jpg "The Sandman | Behind The Scenes Sneak Peek | Netflix") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK-Bl7gZ9s8)

I suspect I’m going to be making a replica of the helm, soon.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/130 "2022-06-12T08:51:09Z")

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And here are some photos of Death. Look at that smile!  
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU47AI1WQAAyc5S.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU47AI1WQAAyc5S.jpg)  
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU47BZUWYAAKKZ4.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU47BZUWYAAKKZ4.jpg)

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/131 "2022-06-12T12:42:59Z")

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Is the permanent Blue Steel expression makeup, CGI, or taught facial muscles?

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/132 "2022-06-12T12:45:16Z")

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Based on her role on The Good Place, I think she’s going to be freaking fantastic as Death. Indeed, the biggest worry is that she’s gonna get typecast as a brilliant, cheerful woman who accepts no bullshit and hangs out in the afterlife.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/133 "2022-06-12T14:49:24Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> But a female John Constantine? No, that I can’t accept.

> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Johanna was an ancestor of John’s, straight out of the Sandman comics.

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> FTR, Jenna is playing Johanna Constantine, the great-great-great-grandmother of John Constantine.

Are we sure that it’s actually John’s ancestor, as opposed to a female John? Do we have confirmation of this? Or are you just speculating based on the name?

Note that Lucifer and Lucian/ Lucienne were male in the original, and are also female in the TV version.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/134 "2022-06-12T15:02:58Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Are we sure that it’s actually John’s ancestor, as opposed to a female John? Do we have confirmation of this? Or are you just speculating based on the name?

I read it in one of the articles. It would be a weird speculation anyway, wouldn’t it?

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> Coleman is Johanna Constantine, haunted exorcist and Occult Adventuress for Hire. Johanna is also John Constantine’s great-great-great grandmother.

> **[The Sandman Casts Death, Johanna Constantine, More As 12 Join Series](https://bleedingcool.com/tv/the-sandman-casts-death-johanna-constantine-more-as-12-join-series/)**
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> Netflix's The Sandman adaptation has cast 12 more, including Kirby Howell-Baptiste as Death, Jenna Coleman as Johanna Constantine, and more.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/135 "2022-06-12T15:03:28Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Are we sure that it’s actually John’s ancestor, as opposed to a female John?

[It’s both.](https://bleedingcool.com/tv/the-sandman-neil-gaiman-answers-questions-constantine-death-more/) “You get her as a modern woman and you get her as the one in the 1790s. Both.”

I was wondering if they were somehow replacing Hob’s storyline with her, but I see a Hob in the cast. Not that that precludes her being immortal as well, I mean look at who she’s talking to in the trailer.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/136 "2022-06-12T15:06:40Z")

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Lucifer was always rather androgynous in the comic. Casting a female thespian for the role is not much of a stretch.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/137 "2022-06-12T15:08:22Z")

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Getting _slight_ Tilda Swinton-as-Gabriel vibes from that casting.  
[![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/dd/4f/e3dd4f655e210fccc40410bc62e6ea7d.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/dd/4f/e3dd4f655e210fccc40410bc62e6ea7d.jpg)

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/138 "2022-06-12T15:10:39Z")

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Tilda Swinton’s performance in the Constantine movie was very strongly reminiscent of Gaiman’s portrayal of Lucifer.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/139 "2022-06-12T17:11:37Z")

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I like the bright cheery setting for that scene….that’s definitely not something that easily comes off the page

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-trailer-upd-now-on-netflix/965921/140 "2022-06-13T19:46:24Z")

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Just looked up the cast on imdb, and squeed just a little bit at Stephen Fry as Gilbert. _That’s_ perfect casting.

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