# The Sandman TV Show thread (See OP for spoiler policy) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [August 5, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145 "2022-08-05T15:39:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/101 "2022-08-19T13:53:26Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > I missed the connection. I think you missed that when Judy (the lesbian in the diner) was first calling for Donna, it was Rose she spoke to. The implication is that they are roommates (and friends). ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/102 "2022-08-19T13:53:28Z")
The answer is that Rose and Judy are friends (and pretty sure Judy FaceTimed Rose from the diner. Read it somewhere. As ninja’d above.) To the comic fans. Did that play more importantly in the comics? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/103 "2022-08-19T13:56:41Z")
We watched episode 6 last night. I have no idea what death was like in the comics, but i LOVED her, i thought she was great. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/104 "2022-08-19T13:59:55Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > To the comic fans. Did that play more importantly in the comics? Not really, no. It’s a payphone call not a video chat, but the call is the same. More-or-less verbatim, even. Donna shows up again later, but as a peripheral character in another story involving someone else from the Florida house besides Rose. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/105 "2022-08-19T14:01:29Z")
And the show ends with a glimpse of desire. I thought it was perfect to cast them with a non-binary actor. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/106 "2022-08-19T14:02:59Z")
The Judy/Rose/Donna/Barbie connection is not really important to the overall story, but it does serve to show how everything is interconnected - sort of in a Dirk Gently kind of way. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/107 "2022-08-19T14:05:56Z")
A bonus episode has dropped on Netflix featuring the _Calliope_ and _Dream of a Thousand Cats_ stories. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/108 "2022-08-19T14:11:22Z")
Cool! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/109 "2022-08-19T15:13:37Z")
> [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > A bonus episode has dropped on Netflix featuring the _Calliope_ and _Dream of a Thousand Cats_ stories. 😱 Really? Awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/110 "2022-08-19T15:47:52Z")
Just heard about that. They’re both supposed to be at least partially animated. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/111 "2022-08-19T16:04:59Z")
Just watched. The first is animated with a rotoscoped feel to my eye. The next live action. > **Summary** > > Anyone know if the names on the tombstones have significance? > > I was more than half expecting the doctor who dreamed of being a writer to bind Calliope to her as a twist. Glad they did not do that. Nice bonus! ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/112 "2022-08-19T18:40:14Z")
Christ, I thought Derek Jacobi had passed…i guess a thousand Neil Gaimans dreamed him alive cause I was sure he was dead. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/113 "2022-08-19T19:00:21Z")
Not quite rotoscope. More. “We endeavored to make the animated version of ‘A Dream of a Thousand Cats’ as mesmerizing and hypnotic as we could by utilizing the magic of real oil paintings on canvas,” Hisko Hulsing, who directed the animated story, said in a statement. “We combined the paintings with classically drawn 2D animation, based on realistic 3D animation of telepathic cats in order to create a trippy world that feels both grounded and dreamy at the same time. Untold Studios in London created the breathtaking 3D animation of the cats. The wonderful 2D animation, oil paintings and stylizing were all done at Submarine Studios in Amsterdam.” From > **[Netflix’s ‘The Sandman’ Drops New Episode Starring Sandra Oh, James McAvoy,...](https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/sandman-animated-cats-calliope-sandra-oh-david-tennant-1235344094/amp/)** > > While Netflix has yet to renew Neil Gaiman’s “The Sandman” for Season 2, it’s just given fans of the new hit TV series the next best thing by dropping a surprise “bonu… ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/114 "2022-08-19T19:48:37Z")
James McAvoy is in the newest episode? Wow, he was(is) Dream in the audio play. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/115 "2022-08-19T20:57:04Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Just watched. Did you recognize who did the voice of the skull-headed crow? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/116 "2022-08-19T21:07:53Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I was more than half expecting the doctor who dreamed of being a writer to bind Calliope to her as a twist. Glad they did not do that. They did subtly imply that he raped her. In the original it was much more explicit and unambiguous. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/117 "2022-08-19T21:12:43Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > They did subtly imply that he raped her With the scratches , I don’t think it was subtle. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/118 "2022-08-19T21:18:51Z")
I did not but from the article I know now. Yes I thought the specific of defilement was clear. I was thinking though of the doctor who brought him the bezoar and went to his house … ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/119 "2022-08-20T03:10:34Z")
I know that voice better than most people’s… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145/120 "2022-08-20T06:12:37Z")
This bonus episode was so well done. I’ve had some concern of how well the show will hold up as we move from cohesive narratives like Preludes and Nocturnes and The Doll’s House, and into the stand-alone stories. Those concerns are no more! _Calliope_ gives background to the greater story by bringing the Fates back in and introducing the Orpheus storyline, and _Cats_ stresses the underlying theme of what happens in the Dreaming shaping the waking world; dreams are the fundamentals of myths and stories, which have power to change our reality. That final image of _Cats_ was purrfect! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sandman-tv-show-thread-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/969145.md?page=7)