# The Sarah Connor Chronicles - Hasta la vista, Baby. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 18, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824 "2009-05-18T04:56:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/1 "2009-05-18T04:56:52Z")
[TV by the Numbers](http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/17/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-canceled/18840) is reporting that Fox has officially canceled Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. According to the report, it is even dead as far as Warner Brothers is concerned, and they are no longer shopping it to other networks. That’s a shame. I liked the show well enough, but the ratings just weren’t there. It was just starting to evolve, too. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/2 "2009-05-18T05:31:19Z")
It took way too long to tell its story, and even the pace of each episode dragged. For something based on an action movie series, it was painfully turgid. Still, as far as TV Science Fiction goes, it was well crafted. And ended on a potentially exciting cliffhanger. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/3 "2009-05-19T00:52:57Z")
Ah damn. How can the people at Fox think that’s a good decision with Salvation just around the corner? Seems like they could have cashed in on that big. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/4 "2009-05-19T01:49:41Z")
Crap ☹ ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/5 "2009-05-19T02:08:42Z")
So this means Summer Glau can get a job where she’s allowed to have a personality? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/6 "2009-05-19T05:50:09Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > So this means Summer Glau can get a job where she’s allowed to have a personality? Well, Dollhouse is getting another shot so maybe they could cast her on that and she could have multiple personalities! ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/7 "2009-05-19T10:02:58Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Ah damn. How can the people at Fox think that’s a good decision with Salvation just around the corner? Seems like they could have cashed in on that big. Exactly what I thought. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/8 "2009-05-19T10:37:38Z")
This morning, one more really interesting implication of the season finale hit me: Assuming they ran 2 story lines, now, if Sarah stops judgment day, she kills John–he only exists in a future with judgment day. If she stops it, she kills him. Always in the past, Sarah’s 2 goals–save John, save the world–have been in harmony. Now they conflict. That could have been awesome. ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/9 "2009-05-19T15:57:23Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Well, Dollhouse is getting another shot so maybe they could cast her on that and she could have multiple personalities! Or she could be the next season’s Big Bad. We’re going through a good chunk of the Firefly cast in Whedon’s other shows, why not this one? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/10 "2009-05-19T16:17:59Z")
GodDAMN it. It just got good! Of course, the show always kept forgetting that it had _killer robots from the future_ it could tell stories about instead of whiny humans from the present. Which was kind of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/11 "2009-05-19T16:18:40Z")
**MandaJo** , since the show is dead anyway, not going to spoiler my response. Who said John only lives if Judgement Day occurs? Where do you get that? John is only the savior if JD occurs, but he could very well live a mundane, happy life without JD. Like the alternate version of Sarah from T2. In fact, _that_ has been her goal all along - for John to not have to be the savior. So I don’t see how that conflict could arise. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/12 "2009-05-19T16:19:25Z")
Shit. Wasn’t a perfect series, but it had its bright spots. Too bad it didn’t find traction. I actually looked forward to it. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/13 "2009-05-19T17:04:35Z")
…stupid tv execs probably were too ego-involved to wait and see how the movie did. If the movie had been a blockbuster and it drove interest in the show the MOVIE people would have gotten the credit for saving the show. So the TV folks decided it would be better just to kill the show off rather than have to give credit to anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/14 "2009-05-19T17:58:10Z")
I really, really loved the first season. I mean, really really. Loved every moment of it. Thought it was the best new TV show out there. That being said, the second season screwed the pootch. Hardcore, even. Jesse? Crap. Riley? Crap. The three dots? Crap. Weaver and John Henry? Very awesome, but underused. And taking John out of school and having him take a level in badass? A mistake. It didn’t feel like gradual growth and development; it felt incredibly forced. They attempted to make up for it in the last few episodes, and _those_ episodes were fantastic. And the eventual resolution to the Jesse and Riley things was decent enough. But the buildup felt terribly built. Shoddy. And the filler episodes were horrific. I mean. . .the guys with the van and the dreams-that-may-or-may-not-have-been-real? Bleh. Not everything needs to be lost. Sometimes, robots just need to kill people. So, while I’d _like_ for it to be renewed, I’m not overly heartbroken. They had a chance. They screwed it up. C’est la vie. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/15 "2009-05-19T18:06:48Z")
Nooooooooo!!! First BSG and now this! ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/16 "2009-05-19T18:12:58Z")
For me the show self-terminated when they introduced Emo Kyle Reece. I miss the crazy-eyed ranting Michael Biehn Reece from the original film. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/17 "2009-05-19T18:17:13Z")
I was really, really getting to like that guy from 90210, though, except they didn’t give him a damned thing to do all second season and then, well. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/18 "2009-05-19T18:22:32Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > So this means Summer Glau can get a job where she’s allowed to have a personality? She could have had this chance if TSCC was picked up. She would have played Allison Young, the woman after whom Cameron was modeled. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/19 "2009-05-19T18:42:13Z")
The writing was uneven. I can see why it’s going. Odesio ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824/20 "2009-05-19T18:51:28Z")
Damn, that was most definitely the best show on during the last two seasons. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-hasta-la-vista-baby/496824.md?page=2)