# The Savile effect, or biggest post-mortem fall from grace **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 10, 2015, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439 "2015-08-10T10:23:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439/41 "2015-08-13T10:20:22Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > And, I have probably two dozen large boxes of sci-fi books in my basement waiting to be unpacked some decade, and this is the first I’ve heard of this. I’m sure I have some of her books. We had a [couple](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=727242) of [threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=722500) about it at the time. Only one of those actually had her name in the title, _mea culpa_. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439/42 "2015-08-13T12:49:29Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > Wouldn’t her posthumous royalties go to her (abused) child as her heir? Or is there an interesting story there? I don’t see the logic of diverting her estate’s income. … In the case of somebody who has posthumous income, it’s pretty typical to keep the estate operating as a legal entity as long as the income lasts. What the estate does with that income is entirely a matter of the terms of the wills, trusts, etc., that the decedent set up (or didn’t). As well, the lay press will frequently refer to “the estate of \” even when at time of writing the legal estate is long closed and what survives is the trust set up to manage the ongoing income and assets for the benefit of whoever. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439/43 "2015-08-13T13:31:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Also: there are still graphologists? Hasn’t that all been thoroughly debunked by now? Unfortunately, [it might be getting more popular](http://www.theguardian.com/careers/handwriting-analysis). ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439/44 "2015-08-13T15:08:49Z")
I see he is making news once more; Warren Harding must rank as one of the great falls from grace after death. He died quite a popular President. Soon afterwards his administration was proven to have been corrupt. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439/45 "2015-08-13T15:32:38Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > But wasn’t even that story secondary to the fact that Kuralt was really such a rude egotistical jerk that nobody at CBS could stand him and that the “On the Road” segments came about because they wanted to get him out of the studio and couldn’t fire him? True, but there are a lot of assholes who are rude to their coworkers, and that alone usually isn’t enough to destroy their public personna the way the OP describes. (ISTR that “On the Road” was actually Kuralt’s idea. The network let him try it as an experiment, and everyone soon realized that things were much better all around.) ---
**Author:** ![DtypeJag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@DtypeJag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DtypeJag)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439/46 "2015-08-14T03:35:47Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Columbus had slavery on his mind from day 1 of landing in the new world, read the official accounts. > > HOWEVER as a man of his time he had no concept of bacteria or viruses, so he had no clue what he and his crew were doing infecting native populations. > > (There is a display here that claims to be a boat anchor from Columbus’s boat in concrete by the side of the road, wonder if it is authenticated. > > EDIT:Huh turns out it is real! > > [http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2012-07-15/remembering-christopher-columbus](http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2012-07-15/remembering-christopher-columbus) The same is true of Junipero Serra, senior Padre of the California mission system. The natives only purpose on earth was to have their souls saved. If they died by the thousands in the process, so what! They would spend eternity in heaven. He’s now in the process of becoming a saint. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-savile-effect-or-biggest-post-mortem-fall-from-grace/727439.md?page=2)