# The "Say Something Nice About Bush" Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 9, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112 "2003-03-09T19:12:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/181 "2003-03-11T04:34:44Z")

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Well, **elucidator** , i must take some of the blame for derailing your thread, but i also plead mitigating circumstances. My first contribution was in the spirit of your OP, but when **danae** _et alia_ decided to make it a debate instead of a fun-fest, i had to respond in kind.

My humble apologies.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/182 "2003-03-11T07:14:28Z")

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And you’ve been doing quite well in your responses, **mhendo**.

Be funny though, to imagine what might happen should **Danae** discover you’re an immigrant.

Oops, did I say that with my out loud voice?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/183 "2003-03-11T07:37:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \*  
> \*\*And you’ve been doing quite well in your responses, **mhendo**.
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> Be funny though, to imagine what might happen should **Danae** discover you’re an immigrant.
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> Oops, did I say that with my out loud voice? \*\*

Thanks for the kind words. I did consider breaking that piece of news earlier on, but i figured that if the xenophobes don’t know where you’re from then they actually have to pay attention to the content of what you say. But i’m glad you’ve outed me now.

I was born in Canada to an English mother and a Hungarian father, and i grew up in Australia. Don’t know exactly what **Danae** might make of that. No doubt, in her mind, i’ll be relegated to threads on hockey, the royal family, Imre Nagy, and Fosters. The fact that i’m doing a Ph.D. in United States History might redeem me somewhat, except that it places me in the centre of the vast liberal media and academic conspiracy that’s strangling America. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/184 "2003-03-11T07:50:44Z")

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> Hey wait, I know! He doesn’t pick his nose in public!

Sorry, **Stoid** …[that’s not “quite” accurate…](http://politicalhumor.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifilm.com%2Fifilm%2Fproduct%2Ffilm_info%2F0%2C3699%2C960813%2C00.html)

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/185 "2003-03-11T08:57:12Z")

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He manages to make his father look like one of the [good guys](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=168742)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/186 "2003-03-11T12:34:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mhendo \*  
> \*\*…My humble apologies. \*\*

No prob, Eurotrash. Freak freely.

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**Author:** ![Kantalooppi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@Kantalooppi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kantalooppi)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/187 "2003-03-11T13:58:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
> \*\*I would JUST like to say THAT I think I’M going to start randomly CAPITOLIZING words in all OF my posts too. IT’s fun, and IT sure gives my PINKY a good work out.
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> Caution: CAPE does NOT allow user TO fly. \*\*

You get the urge to read the posts in “Mr. DiMartino from Daria” voice. With the eye popping out every so often.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/188 "2003-03-11T14:13:45Z")

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He didn’t vote for Nader…😛

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/189 "2003-03-11T14:26:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Danae \*  
> \*\*REALLY??? Funny, I thought the first duty of a reader… was to READ!! You might try it before making a fool of yourself again. Just a pithy little hint.Danae \*\*

Oh, sod off, you ignorant, arrogant asshole. If you’ll look around a little before flinging your poo at us like a bored monkey, you’ll find that I’m perfectly willing to engage in reasoned debates with conservatives on this board, **when they know how to write**. I used to work as a writing tutor, and I was a damned good one, judging from student feedback.

Occasionally, though, some asshole would bring me something like what you’d just written, one step up from handing me a sheet of paper they’d just wiped their ass on. When that happened, I’d hand it right the fuck back to them and tell them that they needed to spend a little more time on revising and organizing their thoughts before I’d take a look at it.

Well, not really. I never did that, because I was being paid to be a tutor. But guess what? I’m not being paid to read your verbal vomit. Clean it up, organize it, or shut the hell up, you smarmy incoherent orangutan.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/190 "2003-03-11T14:26:33Z")

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I was actually going to reply to **Danae** , about her(?) ability to claim that ritual denunciations are “facts” and that Bush still doesn’t have to accept responsibility for anything, but y’all have done a much more thorough job of that already.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/191 "2003-03-11T14:35:10Z")

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**Danae** , I asked you a question, and given that you seemed to have used a lot of time and energy responding to the various issues raised in this thread, I am wondering why you avoided my question.

Are foreign questions not as worthy to be answered as American ones?

In the case that you simply overlooked my question in my previous post, I’ll ask it again, this time in bold so it will not be overlooked.

**Why should we in Australia bash our own leaders? What have they done to deserve it?**

I mean, you must know, since you recommended that we “go bash [our] own leaders, [we] have lots to do there with our distracting yourself with [YOURS].”

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> _originally posted by Gorsnak_  
> Folks, we have a winner! Johnny, tell **gex gex** about the prize!

Oh boy oh boy oh boy! Will it be the washer and dryer set or the new 4WD?

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> _originally posted by me_  
> We can bash many leaders similtaneously, and have even been known to juggle the bashing of at least eleven or twelve, while still _time wrestling crocofiles_ and drinking copious amounts of VB.

I would just like to point out that the italicised words are not spelling mistakes.

Crocofiles are ferocious documents found in the beaurocracy of the Northern Territory and I believe in many parts of South America and Africa. They are big, scary, amphibious stacks of paper liable to take a bite out of anyone who comes too close. The public servant Steve Irwin the Crocofile Hunter is famous for the recklessness he shows when confronted by such fearsome paperwork.

Time Wrestling is the struggle to control and pin down things from a different time period. Hence, _time wrestling crocofiles_ is the wrangling of vicious paperwork that will be filled out at a future time.

My point being that it is quite a challenge to do this while similtaneously bashing world leaders, but we manage.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/192 "2003-03-11T15:23:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Danae \*  
> **I can only judge you by what you say to me, and I have NO intention of going back and reading 450 or so posts just to get a feel for your ignorance of lack there of.**

In fairness, it would probably take you less time to read all of his past posts than it would for him to read that one dissertation on the evils of Bill Clinton that you wrote.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/193 "2003-03-11T16:53:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gex gex \*  
> \*\*Oh boy oh boy oh boy! Will it be the washer and dryer set or the new 4WD? \*\*

The good news is that you’ve won the 4WD.

The bad news is that a SDMB poster (with all of the typo tendencies that the position implies) did the data entry on processing your award.

Stand by for your can of WD40.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/194 "2003-03-11T17:50:45Z")

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Like Hitler, he is good with children.

His face scrunches in an endearing way when he comes across a difficult word on the Teleprompter.

You can hardly see the strings.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/195 "2003-03-11T17:54:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by spoke- \*  
> \*\*Like Hitler, he is good with children. \*\*

Oh, goodie! A tribute to Godwin!!

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**Author:** ![BondJamesBond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@BondJamesBond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BondJamesBond)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/196 "2003-03-11T18:37:48Z")

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You can agree or disagree with his policies and public persona, but even his detractors have to admit that George W. Bush is a friggin’ Boy Scout. In the two years he has been in office, there has not been a whiff of scandal coming from the Oval Office and its immediate surroundings.

Sure, Bush’s opponents have tried to make policy decsions sounds like scandals or point to some long-past, unfounded claim of potential wrong doing. For example, Bush’s pro-business policies are not themselves scandals. Neither is the Administration’s decision to exclude certain NGOs from the decision-making process. What law is violated by excluding Sierra Club from the Energy Task Force? Bush receiving LEGAL campaign contributions from Enron, Ken Lay, and the rest are not scandals. Bush admits to having had a drinking problem and having had a checkered past, but he stopped drinking, straightened out and “got his act together.”

Contrast this with the Clinton White House. It seems every week there was some petty, small-minded lapse in ethical conduct: unreported diplomatic “gifts,” giving contracts to “friends” without receiving other, competitive bids; reviewing tax returns of political opponents; knowingly receiving campaign contributions from foreign nationals; soliciting campaign contributions from government property. I am not going to address the whole “Monica Lewinski thing” that was a lapse of judgement and NOT a violation of the law.

This does not mean I support President Bush or the potential conflict in Iraq. I just think that despite his faults, George W. Bush tries to uphold the honor of the Presidency of the United States of America. In contrast, Bill Clinton was a Mayor Quimby-type: a small person who treated being Head of State as being mayor of Spittleville, Arkansas. “Yee Haw. I’m President. Give my brother the town dog shit collection contract while I get a hummer from the town floozie.”

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/197 "2003-03-11T18:50:01Z")

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we must have a different definition of ‘whiff of a scandal’.

the whole Enron thing threatened to blow up in his face, Cheaney’s refusal to list the names of people w/whom he met to hammer out the national energy policy etc. those, IMHO would most certainly qualify as ‘whiffs of scandal’.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/198 "2003-03-11T19:04:49Z")

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[Seymour Hersh](http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030317fa_fact) on Perle’s “whiff of a scandal”, for just one example. **Bond** , you may think that business “coincidences of interest” are not scandalous, but over here we aren’t as inclined to think so.

I’m surprised that anyone would equate the degree of reporting of corruption with the degree of its actual occurrence and severity.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/199 "2003-03-11T19:07:16Z")

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Yep, as long as he keeps his dick in his pants who the hell cares if he starts WW-III due to sheer incompetence? No scandal there.

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**Author:** ![Danae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@Danae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danae)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-say-something-nice-about-bush-thread/160112/200 "2003-03-11T19:42:56Z")

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When you have nothing to say it usually doesn’t take up too much space. If he wants to be a lazy ass that’s his ignorant ass fault.

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