# The scourge that is the demon weed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 4, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860 "2018-01-04T17:54:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/181 "2018-01-08T22:13:25Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Actually, I don’t think there’s much proof to show that marijuana smoking increases your odds of lung cancer. > > I’m not saying it doesn’t, I’m saying that there isn’t any proof that it is nearly as dangerous as tobacco or even microwave popcorn. Smoking does provide a good dose of CO though. Along with soot and other stuff. Combustion isn’t the way to go. Vaping is like standing in a steamy shower and breathing. Smooth as a baby’s bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/182 "2018-01-08T22:48:44Z")
> [@B-Rad](#): > > but I reckon the French are actually to blame for it all. Well, _obviously_. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/183 "2018-01-09T00:57:33Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > Definitely of eating Taco Bell. [Jack in the Box.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5rlbOqQq7w) ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/184 "2018-01-09T01:16:45Z")
Taco Bell and Jack in the Box are totally aware of the stoner market. JitB makes the “Munchie Meal” which absolutely seems like something that a stoned person would make at home when they want food but stores are closed. Nacho cheese on a chicken sandwich? Curly fries on a burger? Taco Bell had the “Fourthmeal” when you should be going to bed but need more stoner food. Taco Bell has the advantage over Jack in cleaning your colon about 20 minutes later. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/185 "2018-01-09T02:27:39Z")
I thought the stoner place was supposed to be white castle. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/186 "2018-01-09T02:39:04Z")
More on cancer: tobacco smoke contains polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, thought to be one of its main carcinogens. Marijuana smoke has these as well, so you’d think it would also cause cancer. But, apparently not. [This article](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/) does a good job of exploring the paradox: > [@](#): > > compounds found in cannabis have been shown to kill numerous cancer types including: lung cancer [9], breast and prostate [10], leukemia and lymphoma [11], glioma [12], skin cancer [13], and pheochromocytoma [14]. The effects of cannabinoids are complex and sometimes contradicting, often exhibiting biphasic responses. > [@](#): > > Smoke from tobacco and cannabis contains many of the same carcinogens and tumor promoters [20,21]. However, cannabis and tobacco have additional pharmacological activities, both receptor-dependent and independent, that result in different biological endpoints. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons found in smoke are pro-carcinogens that are converted to carcinogens by the enzymatic activity of the cytochrome P4501A1 oxidase protein (CYP1A1 gene product). Benzo [a] pyrene is converted to its carcinogenic metabolite diol epoxide, which binds to specific hyper-mutable nucleotide sequences in the K-ras oncogene and p53 tumor suppressor [22]. Recent work by Roth et al. demonstrates that THC treatment of murine hepatoma cells caused a dose dependent increase in CYP1A1 gene transcription, while at the same time directly inhibiting the enzymatic activity of the gene product [23]. Thus, despite potentially higher levels of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons found in cannabis smoke compared to tobacco smoke (dependent on what part of the plant is smoked), the THC present in cannabis smoke should exert a protective effect against pro-carcinogens that require activation. In contrast, nicotine activates some CYP1A1 activities, thus potentially increasing the carcinogenic effects of tobacco smoke Not as fun as the Jack in the Box commercial, but food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/187 "2018-01-09T04:32:26Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > What of it ? :o > I picked up the colloquialism here I believe (or possibly thanks to Jon Stewart ? I don’t even remember), and initially used it “ironically” when trying to sound like a hick ; but now it’s just a thing I say when talking to/about Murricans. I dunno, I like it. > > Plus it’s nice to have a distinction between second person singular and plural, like real languages have 😛 That’s awesome. Pro tip: In Southern American English, “ya’ll” can refer to a single person. For clarity, when referring to multiple people, you say “all ya’ll.” ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/188 "2018-01-09T04:37:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I thought the stoner place was supposed to be white castle. Sadly, there are no White Castles in Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/189 "2018-01-09T04:57:43Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > That’s awesome. > > Pro tip: In Southern American English, “ya’ll” can refer to a single person. > > For clarity, when referring to multiple people, you say “all ya’ll.” Bo tip: it’s spelled _y’all_. For clarity, when referring to multiple people you can say “alla y’all”, but “y’all” is also acceptable. IME, “alla y’all” (“all of you all”) is generally somewhat dismissive or disapproving, while “y’all” is generally friendly. “Alla y’all kids get the hell offa my lawn!” “Y’all come back now, ya hear?” Not hard and fast rules, but it just seems IME that the added emphasis of “alla” occurs more often with an adversarial tone. It tickles me that when I was a kid, y’all was a term almost exclusively used in the Southern US, but with exposure, population drift and a relentless refusal to stop using it, we’ve managed to convince others of how useful (and fun to say) it is and export it all over the US and, apparently, even to other continents. That totally fucking rocks! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/190 "2018-01-09T04:58:44Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Sadly, there are no White Castles in Colorado. We have one on the Strip here in Las Vegas, over at New York New York (natch). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/191 "2018-01-09T09:58:41Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > That’s awesome. > > Pro tip: In Southern American English, “ya’ll” can refer to a single person. Oh I’m aware, but for some reason that usage doesn’t click with me. It feels a bit too close to saying “you people” to a single person, you know ? :o ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/192 "2018-01-09T11:21:19Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Pro tip: In Southern American English, “ya’ll” can refer to a single person. North Cackalackian here. Never heard this usage. Now, y’all could be said to a single person but in such a case would refer to some group that they are a member of. > [@](#): > > For clarity, when referring to multiple people, you say “all ya’ll.” Nope. All y’all (sometimes y’all folks) is a superplural – groups of groups. Performers speaking to an audience might use such a construct, or a host speaking to guests, some of whom came as couples. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/193 "2018-01-09T13:34:02Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > Never heard this usage. As **Bo** pointed out, the spelling suggests it is a different word. Based on where the apostrophe is, I am going to guess that it is a contraction of “yes, I will”, as in “_ya’ll take care of that_.” ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/194 "2018-01-09T13:34:08Z")
> [@AI\_Proofreader](#): > > Sadly, there are no White Castles in Colorado. But if you scour the frozen food section of your local King Sooper: [White Castle sliders](https://www.whitecastle.com/food/grocery/Sliders?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_ZGTkv_K2AIVEf5kCh1X6wo2EAAYASAAEgJ-f_D_BwE)! You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/195 "2018-01-09T15:23:50Z")
The _y’all_ construct also exists (with identical meaning) in the Indian dialects of South African English, where it originated completely separately from Southern US usage AFAIK. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/196 "2018-01-09T19:07:19Z")
Apropos of nothing, the “Namaste, y’all!” usage in Southern yoga studios tickles me silly. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/197 "2018-01-09T20:24:13Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Oh I’m aware, but for some reason that usage doesn’t click with me. It feels a bit too close to saying “you people” to a single person, you know ? :o I find it a great expression, however, to avoid gender assumptive addresses. Which means that a Southern Redneck form of communication serves to better converse in the LGBT world. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/198 "2018-01-09T21:37:57Z")
Only on the SD could a thread about Demon Weed morph into a discussion about the vernacular and usage of y’all. Okay. Fess up. How much demon weed did y’all have before you came in here? And was it smoked, vaped, or edible? Y’all never change now, y’hear me? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/199 "2018-01-09T21:44:45Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Only on the SD could a thread about Demon Weed morph into a discussion about the vernacular and usage of y’all. > > Okay. Fess up. How much demon weed did y’all have before you came in here? And was it smoked, vaped, or edible? > > Y’all never change now, y’hear me? Another thread, on the same page as this one, just spent 2 pages discussing the proper pronunciation of _femme_. It’s really getting savage in here. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/200 "2018-01-09T21:46:44Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Only on the SD could a thread about Demon Weed morph into a discussion about the vernacular and usage of y’all. > > Okay. Fess up. How much demon weed did y’all have before you came in here? And was it smoked, vaped, or edible? > > Y’all never change now, y’hear me? and it happened in the pit no less, yall! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860.md?page=11)