# The scourge that is the demon weed

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 4, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860 "2018-01-04T17:54:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/201 "2018-01-10T06:20:13Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Only on the SD could a thread about Demon Weed morph into a discussion about the vernacular and usage of y’all.
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> Okay. Fess up. How much demon weed did y’all have before you came in here? And was it smoked, vaped, or edible?
> 
> Y’all never change now, y’hear me?

> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Another thread, on the same page as this one, just spent 2 pages discussing the proper pronunciation of _femme_. It’s really getting savage in here.

This is why weed should be legal, cheap, and available everywhere. World peace would be ushered in overnight. We’d all be too busy calmly discussing random semantics and debating what Pink Floyd lyrics _really_ meant to ever fight each other. Oh, and of course watching adult cartoons and snacking.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/202 "2018-01-10T15:03:30Z")

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Wait until we all get corked and try to discuss;

_One toke over the line sweet Jesus  
One toke over the line  
…_

Sweet Jesus is his pocket vaporizer. Has to be.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/203 "2018-01-10T15:06:56Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Wait until we all get corked and try to discuss;
> 
> _One toke over the line sweet Jesus  
> One toke over the line  
> …_
> 
> Sweet Jesus is his pocket vaporizer. Has to be.

The classic [Lawrence Welk blunder.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8tdmaEhMHE)  
“Modern spiritual”, indeed. 😃

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/204 "2018-01-11T14:48:34Z")

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I set foot for the first time in one of California’s newly-legal (for recreational purposes) dispensaries. Wow. A far cry from buying a bag of miscellaneous foliage and hoping it’s Good Shit.

First: do you want edibles? drinkables? vaporizable oil? How about tinctures or ointments? If you want green foliage…which of 20 blends & varietals?

Do you know the difference between THC and CBD? Between indica and sativa? 10 mg…is that a lot? a little?

Mind-blowing…and that’s before you use the product. (Also mind-blowing: seeing billboards for weed-related businesses.)

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/205 "2018-01-11T15:36:11Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I set foot for the first time in one of California’s newly-legal (for recreational purposes) dispensaries. Wow.

_I can show you the world  
Shining, shimmering splendid_

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/206 "2018-01-11T16:16:20Z")

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_Gonna find my stash, gonna hold it tight  
Gonna grab some afternoon delight…_

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/207 "2018-01-11T17:31:55Z")

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Let’s see, package of Joe’s Joints, count of ten, rated 2.6 on the Chong Scale…retail at $30.45 ea,. with tax, $267.66…

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/208 "2018-01-11T17:47:41Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Let’s see, package of Joe’s Joints, count of ten, rated 2.6 on the Chong Scale…retail at $30.45 ea,. with tax, $267.66…

Seriously. The tax on my purchase amounted to 36%. The state of California may not have any budget problems for a while.

(If you’re curious: 2 packs of 10 mg gummy bears; one indica, one sativa.)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/209 "2018-01-11T20:16:03Z")

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I went to Tempe a couple of years ago with some comrades to see Tool and Primus in concert. All we had to do was hang around in the smoking area outside the hotel and eventually weed resellers would show up. I have to say, the legal product was at least as good as the copious amounts of hydroponics I’ve sampled.

Being from a red state, we relished in the absence of abortion crosses and halfassed bathroom laws and enjoyed much recreational repast. We asked around at some local bars and learned that it’s best to remain indoors and not toke in public. Keep cool and don’t rub it in. Sure enough, there were no stoners laying prone in their own urine to be seen. No broken bottles, no flattened beer cans, no puddles of puke… all very mellow and civilized.

I did enjoy touring one of the local head shops and seeing the multithousand dollar bongs, some with their own built-in plumbing systems. I think I know where I want to spend my retirement.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/210 "2018-01-11T20:17:08Z")

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/211 "2018-01-11T20:22:37Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> The _y’all_ construct also exists (with identical meaning) in the Indian dialects of South African English, where it originated completely separately from Southern US usage AFAIK.

Do y’all also have the construct “who all”? As in: _Who all wants bacon gravy on their grits?_ If “you” gets a plural, why not “who”?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/212 "2018-01-11T21:36:03Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Seriously. The tax on my purchase amounted to 36%. The state of California may not have any budget problems for a while.
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> (If you’re curious: 2 packs of 10 mg gummy bears; one indica, one sativa.)

I used to go into the state-run liquor store to pick up, say, a nice bottle of Oban. The tag on the shelf would say $90, I would go to the register, hand over three twenties and a ten and that would be that. Now I can get that bottle at the grocery store for only $78 – but when you add on the tax, it is $93.

I bought some 50/50 cooking oil at the Cannabistro the other day. The nice lass behind the counter said it was going for $36. I gave her $36 and that was that.

This shit with, _oh, we got to quote you the base price, and then we will add on the tax and fees and surcharges and gratuities_ is just bullshit that has to end. No one benefits from it. I grew up in Oregon, where the pricetag said what you were going to pay, and there is no good reason it should not be that way everywhere.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/213 "2018-01-11T21:50:29Z")

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Personally, after lengthy and thorough experimentation, I don’t like eating weed. Its effect is a thud, too physical. I like my weed to loosen the gears a bit, bubble it up like a bit of salt on your beer. I don’t want to be stunned, I want to play.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/214 "2018-01-11T22:00:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Personally, after lengthy and thorough experimentation, I don’t like eating weed. Its effect is a thud, too physical. I like my weed to loosen the gears a bit, bubble it up like a bit of salt on your beer. I don’t want to be stunned, I want to play.

It is funny how edibles of the very same stuff produces a very different high. I kind of like it, but you have to careful because it’s so easy to overdo it. Gimme another one of those-- I don’t feel anything yet! 🙂

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/215 "2018-01-11T22:21:57Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It is funny how edibles of the very same stuff produces a very different high. I kind of like it, but you have to careful because it’s so easy to overdo it. Gimme another one of those-- I don’t feel anything yet! 🙂

[It’s because it goes through the digestive tract and then the liver.](https://herb.co/2017/02/10/happens-liver-eat-edibles/)

> [@](#):
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> You may be wondering: if oral THC is less bioavailable, why are edibles so strong? Unlike inhaled cannabis, oral cannabis is processed by the liver before it produces psychoactive effects. In the liver, THC is broken down into a smaller metabolite called 11-hydroxy-THC.
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> Incidentally, 11-hydroxy-THC may actually be more bioavailable than THC. The theory goes that once released into the blood stream, 11-hydroxy-THC more readily crosses what is known as the blood-brain barrier. The blood-brain barrier is a membrane of cells that makes up an extra selective filter for blood that passes into the brain.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/216 "2018-01-11T22:46:30Z")

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I find it a tad irksome that so many of the edibles are confections. We had a chocolate bar about 2" square that had to be cut up because it was 70mg total. And we had to use it soon, because we were going into the desert, where you probably do not want to be toting chocolate bars around. All well and good, but the maker just _had_ to embed a fucking almond in the middle. I guess in order to make cutting it evenly that much more difficult. The last two pieces we had were a little on the, well, I have strong memories of not having memories of that evening.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/217 "2018-01-11T23:57:03Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> Sadly, there are no White Castles in Colorado.

There’s nothing sad about it. You guys, along with Idaho, Utah, New Mexico, Wyoming, Nevada, Arizona, and Montana make up an impregnable barrier to protect us on the West coast from the White Castle scourge.

Your sacrifice does not go unnoticed.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/218 "2018-01-12T00:23:33Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> There’s nothing sad about it. You guys, along with Idaho, Utah, New Mexico, Wyoming, Nevada, Arizona, and Montana make up an impregnable barrier to protect us on the West coast from the White Castle scourge.
> 
> Your sacrifice does not go unnoticed.

😕

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> We have one on the Strip here in Las Vegas, over at New York New York (natch).

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/219 "2018-01-12T00:25:25Z")

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“My god, Elder One… what happened here?”

“These, my child, are the wastelands of the Intermountain West. Here were the burger wars fought. Here the great and noble In-N-Out fought to the last against the ravening hordes of White Castle. This is the devastation their clash created. Nothing withstood their fury, except a few Denny’s, scavenging like cockroaches…”

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-scourge-that-is-the-demon-weed/805860/220 "2018-01-12T00:27:26Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> “My god, Elder One… what happened here?”
> 
> “These, my child, are the wastelands of the Intermountain West. Here were the burger wars fought. Here the great and noble In-N-Out fought to the last against the ravening hordes of White Castle. This is the devastation their clash created. Nothing withstood their fury, except a few Denny’s, scavenging like cockroaches…”

I thought Taco Bell was the only survivor.

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