Oh, I so want to see the Rs alienate Ohio.
Well, yeah, in the sense of preventing dispensaries opening up. I just know that I wouldn’t want to be the first to open their doors in Ohio, and I certainly wouldn’t want to be the second after the first gets raided.
I would not mind seeing a bit more blue around here. The cynical side of me hopes that Sessions decides to try shutting it down.
Not even close. You test via a blood test for THS, and as RC said, that THC may be old and not at all psychoactive. Road side sobriety test are totally ineffective for THC except for smelling burnt weed in the vehicle.
Some Sativa strains are marketed as, and do in fact, increasing focus and mental awareness. Others are marketed as couch lockers (good night, sleep tight weed).
There is no test. Anyone who thinks finding THC in the blood (as many states do) is an indication of intoxication, is still in the dark ages. All that proves is THC ingestion in the last 30 or so days. That’s the problem.
CA has made it illegal to consume Cannabis in a car. Period. Moving, parked, whatever, smoke it in a car and you’re busted. The smell remains and cops are pretty good at sniffing it out.
Maybe this will all work out. I’m hoping that jurors use nullification to let the feds know how we feel on the issue.
Really, the tests like walking a straight line etc. are more relevant than the blood alcohol percentage tests, and to the extent that they disagree, the problem is with the blood alcohol tests. The fundamental problem is not driving while having a certain chemical in your metabolism; the fundamental problem is driving while there exists a state of impairment which makes it unsafe for you to drive. A person could be rendered too impaired to drive by an inherent medical condition which is in no way their own fault, and we’d still want to get them off the road in that case.
My post was NOT specifically about testing for THC. It was about testing for impairment. While the two topics are related they are not the same thing. You can be impaired by a lot more than cannabis or alcohol.
In fact, tests for THC can detect it three weeks to a month after you use it. I agree, it’s pretty useless to determine impairment at a specific moment in time.
Then don’t smoke in the car. This is not rocket science. Hell, don’t even smoke because inhaling smoke of any sort is not healthy. There’s more than one way to use cannabis.
This is like bitching you’re not allowed to drink alcohol in a car, or have open alcohol in a car where the driver can access it. Responsible people can handle the restriction.
One woman I used to work with said she trained as a field nurse for the marines. One day, they noticed the guy sweeping the barracks smelled of alcohol, so, to practice on the medical stuff, they tested his blood. She said that he read 0.40, which is two levels beyond lipwalking for most people, but this guy was casually doing his job like that (and probably turning his liver into mush). Blood substance levels may be a good normal baseline, but the high-tolerance outliers can end up fucked by the system.
Lipwalking? Even Urban Dictionary doesn’t recognize that.
Are there any statistics on accident rates for very intoxicated drivers?
In my own limited experiments, I tend to be rather cautious when stoned on pot. The first and last time I drove after a gallon of beer, OTOH, I laughed as I dodged cars after running a red light! :smack:
Agreed, it really is about impairment, for whatever reason, not just what substances you have taken.
My sister would never drive drunk, and never smoked weed, and thought that intoxicated drivers were the worst sorts of people.
But, she has had several accidents due to falling asleep behind the wheel.
It’s just my speculation, but I suspect that AG Sessions pulled this particular stunt because California just enacted their “sanctuary state” law, which has royally pissed off Sessions. This smells of a big “I’ll show you who’s boss” move, and screw Colorado and Washington and anyone else affected, because they’re all a bunch of damn hippies anyway.
I am quite surprised to see a good portion of the Colorado Republican contingent, including Reps. Ken Buck and Mike Coffman, make pretty strong statements against this action. There are a lot of jobs here in Colorado that could be lost if Sessions wants to go for “maximum asshole”; friends of mine, fellow chemists, are working on methods to standardize purity and contaminant testing, for instance. It’s not just growers and sellers at risk.
California is projecting upwards of $1 billion in state revenue from this first year of marijuana sales; Colorado is estimating $226 million for 2017. I don’t see Colorado going down quietly. Too much money at stake.
It’s interesting that Sessions has washed his hands of this and passed it off to his subordinates to deal with.
It’s when you’re face-down and too banjaxed for your limbs to work right. All you have left is to drag yourself along with your lips.
Geez, I thought that was common vernacular. Now you are going to tell me that no one says “faced” either.
Ballwalking. A Naval tradition.
Instead of capriciously deciding to enforce or not enforce law congress could legalize it. That’s not a terribly hard concept to grasp.
I looked at the original vote on establishing Schedule I in the early '70s – it was approved unanimously, with almost all the Democrats voting “present”.
I don’t agree with the administration’s decision. I think it’s stupid, short-sighted, and out of touch with de facto reality.
Unfortunately, I saw this coming years ago. My boss’s son moved out to Colorado to get into the weed business. I warned him that getting into the field while federal prohibitions were still in place was inherently more risky than most businesses. The feds could have done this just as soon as 45 got settled in. If you work in the field of state-legal cannabis, the feds could shut you down at any time - or worse.
I support legal cannabis 100%, especially as it’s currently working in Colorado. (I’m not a smoker at all, but I visited a pot shop in Bailey on a lark and was really impressed by how well-run it was.) That said, this could have happened at any time. Anyone who sunk a lot of money into the business was taking a huge risk. I applaud their courage to carry on when they knew this could happen. I just hope that people don’t get hurt.
Good point, I have talked to my senators and congressman about the subject. My democratic senator agrees, my republican senator and congressman have not returned my calls.
Have you talked to your congressional representatives?