# The Screamed: FORBIDDEN thread for Screamers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034 "2009-09-29T21:36:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/1 "2009-09-29T21:36:28Z")

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Can’t believe I didn’t start this earlier. It’s here now, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/2 "2009-09-30T02:50:39Z")

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[I can’t believe there wasn’t any commentary in my thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=533500)

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/3 "2009-09-30T03:48:11Z")

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I have been seriously sleep-deprived\* for the past few days. This, I think, is where I got the idea to deliberately spell everyone’s name wrong. See also [this thread](http://www.giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=6132) which I started. Sleep-deprivation is like being drunk (I expect), except it’s socially lauded.

Also, where the hell did this Lie Detector thing come from? I’m not confirming or denying the existence of one, but that seriously just came out of nowhere. Weird.

\*For me, which is only slightly sleep-deprived for others. To continue the analogy, I’m a lightweight.

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**Author:** ![cucuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7feea3/32.png) [@cucuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cucuy)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/4 "2009-09-30T05:28:26Z")

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That Lie Detector is new to me. Any idea what it means?

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/5 "2009-09-30T11:52:33Z")

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> [@cucuy](#):
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> That Lie Detector is new to me. Any idea what it means?

Lie detector is a role that takes a statement by a player and investigates it. The mod will then tell them if the statement is true, false, or undeterminable. Undeterminable statements are either statements that have no true/false evaluation (e.g. opinions or “I think…” statements) or statements that are out of the scope of the game and thus the mod would be unlikely to know it anyway.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/6 "2009-09-30T12:00:18Z")

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> [@Screamers Mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screamers-mafia/510938/486):
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> Tell me if this idea is crazy. Lynch me, with NO ADDITIONAL VOTES on me from here on out except for the Leader (I don’t want scum hiding in a unanimous bandwagon, and I have enough votes on me to die currently). Then, we hope we have a town-aligned Vig. Clearly if **peeker** is a real doc, he’s going to be self-protecting toNight. A Vig is more likely to hit town than scum if they choose a target randomly, so aiming a Vigging at **peeker** toNight wouldn’t really hurt if he’s a self-protecting Doc, and would bag a scum or PFK-type if he isn’t.
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> The only problem I see is if we don’t have a Vig, but I’m banking on the fact that we do in a game this large.

It’s too early to test a claim with a vig. Particularly on a weak case and on a Doc, no less. What if scum have a watcher? (They’ll know who the vig is.) What if scum have a target redirector? (They can switch another person as the vig’s target, who won’t be self-protecting. It’s like a bonus scum kill.) What if scum have a blocker? (They’ll prevent the doc from saving himself. It’s like a bonus scum kill.) There are all sorts of bad scenarios that can arise from having a vig go after a power role. Honestly, a lynch is better, because scum are less apt to be able to screw with the lynch. Vigging to test claims is something better left to mid and end game, when a lot of power roles (on both sides) are exposed or dead.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/7 "2009-09-30T12:10:25Z")

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We need a sub.

Any takers?

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/8 "2009-09-30T16:16:51Z")

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Never mind, we found one.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/9 "2009-09-30T19:44:30Z")

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For an example of a lie detector go hunt up Evil Dead Mafia, Day 2. NAF claims to be Vince, the Dog who Knows Things.

If that’s not in Day 2, it’ll be N1 or N2.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/10 "2009-10-01T18:30:21Z")

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[hijack]  
Subs needed for Disney Mafia on Giraffe. PM me there if you’re willing and able  
[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/11 "2009-10-01T18:33:18Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> For an example of a lie detector go hunt up Evil Dead Mafia, Day 2. NAF claims to be Vince, the Dog who Knows Things.
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> If that’s not in Day 2, it’ll be N1 or N2.

Or my game of “Lost” Mafia from over the summer.

We almost had a fake claim in that game(telcontar, I think) of “vincent”, the dog who knows things. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/12 "2009-10-02T13:34:08Z")

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Wow…at this point, I would be voting jpei out of sheer annoyance. A clever move, but the day’s already too long…

Ironically, the Leader mechanic was supposed to streamline Day length.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/13 "2009-10-02T15:34:41Z")

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I feel like this game’s first Day is taking longer than some complete games.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/14 "2009-10-03T00:58:34Z")

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Interesting Day One, indeed. Longest one I can remember.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/15 "2009-10-07T20:25:20Z")

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Night wasn’t any less interesting than the day. This could get ugly.

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**Author:** ![jpei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@jpei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jpei)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/16 "2009-10-08T01:40:11Z")

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Hmm, my deductions sure need work. For one, you sure fooled me, Jimmy.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/17 "2009-10-08T01:47:03Z")

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Yeah, well. I think a lot of people are going to end up fooled about a lot of things.

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/18 "2009-10-12T08:23:06Z")

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Is there a spoiler board? If so, spoil me!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/19 "2009-10-13T11:46:38Z")

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Anyone wanna sub? Freudian wants out.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-screamed-forbidden-thread-for-screamers/512034/20 "2009-10-15T13:15:01Z")

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Well, piss.

Is there a bar in here?

I see that apparently I was sending some sort of secret messages to peeker that were so secret even I didn’t know about them…

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