# The SD is always slow.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [October 19, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111 "2006-10-19T16:56:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/1 "2006-10-19T16:56:38Z")

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Am I the only one who has this problem? I’ve been a member since last November, and one of the reasons I don’t post more often is that there is usually only about a 50% chance of the page loading for me. Now, I regularly post from two seperate, relatively new PC’s, so I don’t think it’s a computer issue (plus no other websights give me this problem), and I have a good high speed connection at each location.

Often, what happens, is I click on a link (or a preview/submit reply button) and the “loading” toolbar appears at the bottom of the window (I use Opera), and that’s it. 0% progress, nothing loads, often for up to ten minutes.

My question is, does anyone else have this problem? Is it a server issue? Don’t we pay you enough to afford better servers? 😉

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/2 "2006-10-19T17:03:42Z")

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Oh, jeez. Not again.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/3 "2006-10-19T17:08:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Sweet Mercury]  
My question is, does anyone else have this problem? Is it a server issue? Don’t we pay you enough to afford better servers? 😉  
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Yes. Yes. No. Send more money; when it speeds up, you’ll know when you’ve sent enough.

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**Author:** ![Defective\_Detective](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Defective\_Detective](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defective_Detective)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/4 "2006-10-19T17:10:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Sweet Mercury]  
Am I the only one who has this problem? I’ve been a member since last November, and one of the reasons I don’t post more often is that there is usually only about a 50% chance of the page loading for me. Now, I regularly post from two seperate, relatively new PC’s, so I don’t think it’s a computer issue (plus no other websights give me this problem), and I have a good high speed connection at each location.

Often, what happens, is I click on a link (or a preview/submit reply button) and the “loading” toolbar appears at the bottom of the window (I use Opera), and that’s it. 0% progress, nothing loads, often for up to ten minutes.

My question is, does anyone else have this problem? Is it a server issue? Don’t we pay you enough to afford better servers? 😉  
[/QUOTE]

I know it doesn’t \*seem \* as though it could possibly be your problem, but it _is_, unfortunately. I had the same feeling, and then I got a new internet provider. Still using the same computer, but now it’s all better.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/5 "2006-10-19T17:40:28Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
Oh, jeez. Not again.  
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I’m not pitting; I’m just curious. The fact that you say “not again” somewhat indicates that I’m not alone in this complaint?

> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> Yes. Yes. No. Send more money; when it speeds up, you’ll know when you’ve sent enough.

Will $1000 US per month suffice?

> [@DD](#):
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> I know it doesn’t seem as though it could possibly be your problem, but it is, unfortunately. I had the same feeling, and then I got a new internet provider. Still using the same computer, but now it’s all better.

If it’s me, it’s me. No big deal, really, I was just curious if others had this issue at all. I know the SD isn’t a huge for profit business, so I’m not surprised if they dont’ have YouTube level bandwidth capability.

However, I have the problem on both my comps, which have different ISPs, and, I’ve switched ISPs at my home a few times too, and this still happens. Plus, it really only happens regularly on SD, whereas other websights work fine.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/6 "2006-10-19T17:53:52Z")

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It’s **not** you (well, theoretically, you might coincidentally have a problem with your connection, but just as theoretically some little old lady that I don’t know could bequeath me a million dollars). The “not again” comment was because it is a very long standing problem, complained about many times by many people. Time outs are a fact of life.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/7 "2006-10-19T17:56:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Canadjun]  
It’s **not** you (well, theoretically, you might coincidentally have a problem with your connection, but just as theoretically some little old lady that I don’t know could bequeath me a million dollars). The “not again” comment was because it is a very long standing problem, complained about many times by many people. Time outs are a fact of life.  
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Or at least a fact of the SDMB?

I just wanted to make sure Jesus wasn’t picking on me, or something like that. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/8 "2006-10-19T17:57:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Sweet Mercury]  
Or at least a fact of the SDMB?

I just wanted to make sure Jesus wasn’t picking on me, or something like that. 😃  
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Still wish I could edit to avoid double posting, but:

Just to restate, I’m not tearing my hair out here. The quality of the content far outweights the frustration from techincal problems.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/9 "2006-10-19T18:26:29Z")

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You could try a tracert from your PC to the board. Just open a DOS command prompt window and type “tracert [boards.straightdope.com](http://boards.straightdope.com)”. There might be a slow node between you and here. Unfortunately, if that’s true, there’s really nothing you or the Reader could do about it.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/10 "2006-10-19T19:04:00Z")

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[QUOTE=rowrrbazzle]  
You could try a tracert from your PC to the board. Just open a DOS command prompt window and type “tracert [boards.straightdope.com](http://boards.straightdope.com)”. There might be a slow node between you and here. Unfortunately, if that’s true, there’s really nothing you or the Reader could do about it.  
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Tracing route to [boards.straightdope.com](http://boards.straightdope.com) [207.97.195.229]  
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [my IP]  
2 18 ms 19 ms 20 ms [atm013.edge1.nyc.megapath.net](http://atm013.edge1.nyc.megapath.net) [66.80.46.1]  
3 28 ms 24 ms 23 ms [fe1-1-0.core1.nyc.megapath.net](http://fe1-1-0.core1.nyc.megapath.net) [66.80.132.9]  
4 19 ms 19 ms 20 ms [ge-6-5.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net](http://ge-6-5.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net) [209.246.126.1]

5 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms [ae-22-52.car2.NewYork1.Level3.net](http://ae-22-52.car2.NewYork1.Level3.net) [4.68.97.53]  
6 19 ms 22 ms 20 ms [te-4-4.wch010.nycmny2.Level3.net](http://te-4-4.wch010.nycmny2.Level3.net) [4.68.110.18]  
7 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 64.200.249.149  
8 23 ms 25 ms 25 ms [hrndva1wcx2-pos1-0-oc192.wcg.net](http://hrndva1wcx2-pos1-0-oc192.wcg.net) [64.200.210.178]  
9 25 ms 26 ms 26 ms 64.200.249.170  
10 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms [hrndva1wcx1-rackspace-gige.wcg.net](http://hrndva1wcx1-rackspace-gige.wcg.net) [64.200.88.50]  
11 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms [vlan901.core1.iad1.rackspace.com](http://vlan901.core1.iad1.rackspace.com) [69.20.1.10]  
12 25 ms 24 ms 28 ms [aggr6a.iad1.rackspace.com](http://aggr6a.iad1.rackspace.com) [69.20.2.23]  
13 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms 207.97.195.229

Trace complete.

Not that I know what I’m talking about, but it seems that the longest response time is at the SD IP itself.

So there! Jerks!

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/11 "2006-10-19T19:10:09Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
Oh, jeez. Not again.  
[/QUOTE]  
Tell it brother.

READ THE STICKIES.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/12 "2006-10-19T19:54:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Tell it brother.

READ THE STICKIES.  
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I did. I understand that it’s slow and why that happens. But for me, it’s often completely non-operational for large periods of time. That’s not just slow, it’s “not working.”

I was really just curious to see if it was a common thing or if maybe someting specific was happening at my end.

Can you please either answer my question or take your thread-shitting somewhere else? No one forced you to click on thread.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/13 "2006-10-19T20:02:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Sweet Mercury]  
Can you please either answer my question or take your thread-shitting somewhere else? No one forced you to click on thread.  
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There was just a thread on this a few days ago: [Yeah, I know it's been done to death, but... - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390847). People are making fun because this has been discussed a lot lately.

A Pit thread that I started about this and some other issues is still active here: [It's been nearly six months, TubaDiva, where is the "more better stuff" you promised? - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=391250)

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/14 "2006-10-19T20:08:02Z")

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[QUOTE=hajario]  
There was just a thread on this a few days ago: [Yeah, I know it's been done to death, but... - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390847). People are making fun because this has been discussed a lot lately.

A Pit thread that I started about this and some other issues is still active here: [It's been nearly six months, TubaDiva, where is the "more better stuff" you promised? - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=391250)  
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Oh, ok. I usually just scan the first couple of pages for titles involving the subject I’m going to post about, and missed this one for obvious reasons.

If the thread’s a repeat, then the mods can lock or delete it at their discretion ( I won’t take it personally).

I’ll take this over to your pit thread, probably. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/15 "2006-10-20T00:58:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Sweet Mercury]  
Can you please either answer my question or take your thread-shitting somewhere else? No one forced you to click on thread.  
[/QUOTE]  
Okey Dokey. Sometimes it is really really really slow for me, too. Apparently, sometimes it is really really really slow for many posters. So slow that it is not worth the trouble trying to do the intraweb/interface thingy.

[Link.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7698901&postcount=5)  
No thread shitting intended. Sorry you took it that way.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sweet\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Mercury)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2006, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sd-is-always-slow/377111/16 "2006-10-20T04:13:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Okey Dokey. Sometimes it is really really really slow for me, too. Apparently, sometimes it is really really really slow for many posters. So slow that it is not worth the trouble trying to do the intraweb/interface thingy.

[Link.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7698901&postcount=5)  
No thread shitting intended. Sorry you took it that way.  
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That’s the sticky I saw, but I didn’t get the impression that the boards would be often unusable, as they are for me, and as I know see they are for other people as well from **hajario** ’s pit thread. That’s why I asked.

Usually, when a site I’m using is slow, it just loads slowly over a few moments, which is fine. But the Dope just stops. Completely. And, it’s unique for me in that aspect, which is why I was curious about it.

I guess I overreacted with the thread shitting comment. Sorry about that.
