# The SDMB Gun Picture Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 29, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256 "2005-11-29T20:11:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Krebbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Mr.Krebbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Krebbs)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/1 "2005-11-29T20:11:38Z")
I have thought this would be a neat idea for a while, so I decided to dig out the old digital camera today. If anyone else is interested in posting (I hope there will be a few of you), please be sure to conceal your firearm’s serial numbers. I will gladly answer any questions posed about my guns, but I do ask that any Dopers who do not approve of firearms remain polite in this thread. I really don’t want to see it locked or moved to the Pit. [This](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/mr_krebbs/Boring.jpg) is a picture of my more politically correct firearms. The gun on the top is a Marlin bolt-action .22. The Marlin is my first gun; my dad bought it for me the Christmas after we moved to Idaho. I only keep this firearm for its sentimental value. The gun in the middle is a Mossberg 500 12-guage shotgun. As I do not hunt, this is strictly for home defense. The bottom gun is a Ruger 10/22. It’s pretty fun for plinking. [These](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/mr_krebbs/PM9and1911.jpg) are my pistols, with some accessories. The uppermost pistol is my daily carry, a Kahr PM9. The second pistol is a slightly modified Springfield Armory 1911 TRP (Tactical Response Pistol, whatever that means). I carry both in the winter months, so they’re each seeing some use now. [This](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/mr_krebbs/WASR-10.jpg) is a WASR-10, a Romanian AK-47 variant. I have retired this gun from shooting, as its barrel is pretty worn out (I have put over 10k rounds through this, no idea how often the previous owner shot it). I bought this rifle on my 18th birthday. Slightly modified [Vector AK-47.](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/mr_krebbs/VectorAK-47.jpg) This is one of the better AK-47 variants out there, composed mostly of Polish parts. A Vector’s trigger is terrible compared to Arsenal AK, however. [Group Industries Uzi.](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/mr_krebbs/Uzi.jpg) A note on this gun: despite the three-position selector, this is **not** fully automatic! The three-position selector just happens to look cool (I especially appreciate the Israeli markings). [DSA SA58.](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/mr_krebbs/SA58.jpg) This is an American FAL variant, made from Austrian blueprints. The scope is a Trijicon TriPower (as I cannot afford an ACOG as of yet). This is my favorite rifle. Anyway, that’s my gun collection. I’m sorry that I’m such a poor photographer. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/2 "2005-11-29T20:19:02Z")
Nice collection! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Krebbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Mr.Krebbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Krebbs)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/3 "2005-11-29T20:20:25Z")
Ugh. I forgot to post most of the calibers. Anyway, the 10/22 is a .22 also; the PM9 is 9x19mm (9mm Parabellum); the 1911 is .45 ACP; the AK-47 variants are both 7.62x39mm; the Uzi is 9x19mm; the SA58 is a 7.62N (7.62x51mm or .308 Winchester). ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/4 "2005-11-29T20:50:20Z")
I’ll be posting links as appropriate to guns like mine, as I don’t have pics available. Hope nobody minds. [Bersa Thunder 45 in matte black.](http://www.bersa-llama.com/cat_thunder45.html) [Springfield Model 1868 (Allin Trapdoor conversion)](http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/m68.html) [Classic pre-1964 Winchester Model 94. Mine was made in 1956.](http://www.chuckhawks.com/win_pre_64_M94.htm) [Early 1960’s vintage Marlin 336, with scope.](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gunsamerica.com/upload/976444793-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976444793.htm&h=300&w=450&sz=11&tbnid=viA1-KLck4kJ:&tbnh=82&tbnw=124&hl=en&start=45&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarlin%2B336%26start%3D40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2003-41,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN) [Fox Sterlingworth 12-guage double shotgun, originally bought new by my great grandfather.](http://www.ivorybeads.com/site/default.asp?Page=54&FSL3_SL_8=american&FSL3_RUNSEARCH=TRUE&FSID=792) [Remington Model 597 SS semiauto .22 rifle.](http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/rimfire_rifles/model_597/model_597_SS.asp) On the list right now are a scope for the .22, a deer rifle with longer legs, and a pump shotgun, as I don’t want to use the Fox Sterlingworth too much. Otherwise I’m pretty much set. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/5 "2005-11-29T21:15:53Z")
I’ve never taken a photo of any of the two guns I own, but one is a 20-gauge shotgun made, I believe, some time between 1930 and 1942; and the second is an Eddystone 1917 WWI rifle as pictured in this [link](http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl19-e.htm). (It doesn’t appear to have been refitted for WWII, and I believe all of its parts were made by Eddystone, and not a mix of Winchester, Remington and Eddystone.) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Krebbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Mr.Krebbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Krebbs)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/6 "2005-11-29T21:26:58Z")
Nice collection, **Mr. Moto**. How would you rate the conditions of the Springer 1868 and the Fox Sterlingworth? Assuming you’ve shot the latter a little bit, how does it perform? **Skip** , do you have any markings that indicate the model or manufacturer of your 20 guage? Have you ever fired your Eddystone? If so, what did you think? Personally, I enjoyed the one 1917 I had the opportunity to hold at a gun show. Unfortunately, it was something of a Frankenstein and its condition was much less than perfect. I wish I had some older collector’s pieces… Maybe some day. ---
**Author:** ![Kyyrewyyoae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Kyyrewyyoae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyyrewyyoae)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/7 "2005-11-29T21:35:26Z")
I’ve only got two: 1946 Russian Mosin-Nagant (7.69x54R) [pic](http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/Kyyrewyyoae/DSC00687.jpg) 1954 Russian SKS (7.69x39) [pic](http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/Kyyrewyyoae/DSC00690.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/8 "2005-11-29T21:44:15Z")
The Fox Sterlingworth is in great shape - the wood is shiny and the bluing is intact. The barrels have minimal pitting, entirely consistent with a gun used in the field and then cared for. For some reason, the buttplate is a Remington buttplate. This was probably done by my grandfather at some point, in the course of maintaining the gun as a shooter and not necessarily a collectors piece. It shoots like a dream. When it comes to the shoulder the beads are lined up. I have shot trap with it, and the performance is just fine - dead on, nice patterns in both barrels as far as I can tell. The gun is about ninety years old, and has aged well. The Sterlingworth barrels were fluid forged steel, not twist or Damascus barrels, so they shouldn’t wear out if I care for the gun right. The trapdoor isn’t firable, but the steel and wood are in good condition and the rifling is deep and sharp. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/9 "2005-11-29T21:51:30Z")
> [@Mr. Krebbs](#): > > **Skip** , do you have any markings that indicate the model or manufacturer of your 20 guage? Have you ever fired your Eddystone? If so, what did you think? Personally, I enjoyed the one 1917 I had the opportunity to hold at a gun show. Unfortunately, it was something of a Frankenstein and its condition was much less than perfect. The shotgun has one marking, if I recall correctly, and it’s something I had to ask about on a gun board. That’s where the age estimation came from; another site had a similar shotgun on it and claimed it was made in 1915, but the guy on the message board seemed pretty knowledgeable, so I went with his estimation until I could contact someone locally. (I’m not sure what the marking was, but I now I’m interested enough again to go home to find out.) I never did fire the Eddystone. My wife’s uncle (or great-uncle) was the last to fire it, and he used it for hunting. I cleaned it out when her mom gave us the guns, but I wasn’t sure how long it had been sitting uncleaned. I’m not sure it’s safe to be fired, so I need to take it to a local expert to have him/her look at it. Once it’s been given an “OK”, I’ll probably fire it sometime. (Which is to say that I’ll get together with my best friend’s father to have him walk me through some gun training. I’ve never fired a gun before, so I want to make sure I don’t knock anyone’s eye out. Or heart. Or liver.) ---
**Author:** ![JustAnotherGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@JustAnotherGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustAnotherGeek)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/10 "2005-11-29T22:02:47Z")
Just got one. No pictures of my own, but… if you’ve seen one [Glock](http://www.glock.com/g23.htm) , you’ve seen 'em all. 😃 (Glock 23, .40 cal, everything’s is factory, still.) When I lived in Pittsburgh, where I was a medic, that was my carry (to and from work, not on the clock). I’m now a graduate student in Narragansett, RI. For some reason, I don’t feel the need to carry anymore… 😛 My dad, on the other hand, has a really nice old 17th century rifle in his collection. I don’t think he’s got any pictures, tho. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/11 "2005-11-29T22:19:44Z")
I don’t have pictures of most of my guns, and the majority of them are in my safe in a different city, so I’ll just post links. Pistols [Springfield GI M1911-A1](http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/pistols/a1/PW9108L.jpg) .45 ACP. Mine has a commander-style hammer and black wrap-around Hogue grips [Charter Arms Undercover .38](http://www.internationalauctioneers.com/data/dorotheum/39W41106/thumbs/139_35525_1_t.jpg) .38 Special [Hi-Standard Sport King](http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976552552-1.jpg) .22 LR Rifles [Chinese SKS](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a5/Sks.jpg/350px-Sks.jpg) 7.62 Soviet. Mine has no bayonet. I’ve got a [Dragunov-style stock](http://i19.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/41/7d/9e_1_b.JPG) on the way [1928 Tula Arsenal Mosin-Nagant](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Mosin-Nagant.jpg/300px-Mosin-Nagant.jpg) 7.62 Russian. I am going to purchase a second one with a bore that is in good condition, and build a “match grade” Nagant, with Synthetic ATI stock, Leopold scope, non-sight mounted scope mount, sniper-style bent bolt, and a match-grade trigger. [Marlin Model 60](http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/images/firearmImages/60_Th.jpg) I have 2 of these, both scoped [M1 Carbine](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/M1_Carbine.jpg/300px-M1_Carbine.jpg) .30 Carbine. Mine has a lighter-colored stock, made by Inland Arsenal. Mine is in PERFECT condition. [Armalite AR-7 Explorer](http://giguereauction.com/springsportsauction04/Dsc00185.jpg) .22 LR. I also have a very old .22 Rifle which was my grandfather’s when he was a boy. I think it is a very early M6 carbine. Shotguns [Mossberg 500](http://geviar.com/acces/stock4/mos1.jpg) 12 Gauge. [Winchester Model 37](http://hrtyrergalleries.com/images/1201.jpg) 12 Gauge. Mine is the one on the top, with the 36 inch barrel. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/12 "2005-11-29T22:44:37Z")
\ [sub]Be very, very nice to all the posters in this thread[/sub] Some serious hardware folks! ---
**Author:** ![ImaginalDisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e57/32.png) [@ImaginalDisc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImaginalDisc)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/13 "2005-11-29T23:03:16Z")
> [@Mr. Krebbs](#): > > If anyone else is interested in posting (I hope there will be a few of you), please be sure to conceal your firearm’s serial numbers. I’m not into guns, but I’m curious, why should people conceal their firearms’ serial numbers? How are those any more prone to abuse than autmobile VIN’s? ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/14 "2005-11-29T23:34:43Z")
> [@ImaginalDisc](#): > > I’m not into guns, but I’m curious, why should people conceal their firearms’ serial numbers? How are those any more prone to abuse than autmobile VIN’s? I’m curious about that too. Unless it is out some some fear of the “gummint”, why would you care if the serial was visible? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/15 "2005-11-29T23:41:55Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Be very, very nice to all the posters in this thread. Well, you should be nice in general. But remember, my guns have killed far fewer people than Ted Kennedy’s cars have. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/16 "2005-11-30T00:39:54Z")
Just a fraction of the collection: [Russian SKS](http://home.austin.rr.com/perdurabo/sks.jpg) [Moisin-Nagant](http://pictures.auctionarms.com/328749/73d9801e59b25dd6027eb0df83eacabf.jpg) [M1 Garand](http://www.neaca.com/images/Garand_Springfield_14623xx_.JPG) [Lee-Enfield Mark III SMLE](http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/SMLE.JPG) [Lee-Enfield #4, Mark II](http://www.volny.cz/gaudeus/vystroj/no4mk1.jpeg) (mint, never been fired) Mausers. Lots and lots of Mausers. 1891, 1893, 1906, 1908M24/47, M98/85, M98/85 remanufactured, etc. from Sweden, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Turkey, etc. in 6.5, 7, 7.65, 7.62NATO, and 8mm. [AMT Hardballer](http://www.nitroplus.co.jp/pc/ranking/gunimage/AMT-MODEL-HARDBALLER.jpg) [AMT Automag III](http://www.glossover.co.uk/amt/images/AutoMag_III.jpg) [Browning Hi Power](http://www.armchairgunshow.com/images/JX-5323%20HiPower.jpg) [S&W Highway Patrolman](http://world.guns.ru/handguns/sw_28.jpg) [Firestar .40cal](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://world.guns.ru/handguns/firestar_45.jpg&imgrefurl=http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg113-e.htm&h=293&w=426&sz=14&tbnid=_Sd1DyitpCQJ:&tbnh=83&tbnw=122&hl=en&start=7&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfirestar%2B.40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D) [Taurus .44 Special](http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Comparing%2044%20Special%20to%2045%20Colt_files/image014.jpg) plus several .45s, a couple of .22 autos, a brace of Remington Model 1873 black powder pistols, 2 Baikal 9x18 Makarovs, several derringers in .32ACP, and scattered shotguns. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/17 "2005-11-30T01:46:18Z")
I’ve got an original Boer War vintage one of [these](http://www.primasel.co.za/photo.htm). Complete with a history of the Boer Commando who used it 😃 The rest of my collection is pretty standard stuff: Brno/CZ bolt .22 Brno/Cv O/U 12 shotgun CMC bolt .223 ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/18 "2005-11-30T03:17:18Z")
Silenus, you lucky bastard you. I’ve always wanted an Automag like the one in the picture ever since Dirty Harry busted one out. How is it as a shooter? As for my tiny collection there is: [HK USP .45](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hkpro.com/usp45c.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hkpro.com/uspc.htm&h=240&w=320&sz=14&tbnid=i8hk9T7S57EJ:&tbnh=84&tbnw=113&hl=en&start=4&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dh%2526k%2Busp%2B.45%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN) [10/22 with bull barrel (stock’s not this nice though…)](http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/images/Products/124L.gif) [1907 Savage pistol](http://members.aol.com/savage1907/page/steel1a.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/19 "2005-11-30T03:49:00Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > Silenus, you lucky bastard you. I’ve always wanted an Automag like the one in the picture ever since Dirty Harry busted one out. How is it as a shooter? [Automag.](http://www.the-dirtiest.com/automag.htm) Mine is an Automag III, chambered for .30 Carbine. Shoots like a dream, but I find the grips a bit big for my smaller hands. The Hardballer, on the other hand, fits perfectly and makes me feel like saying “Sarah Connor?” every time I take it to the range. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256/20 "2005-11-30T03:57:29Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > [Automag.](http://www.the-dirtiest.com/automag.htm) > > Mine is an Automag III, chambered for .30 Carbine. Shoots like a dream, but I find the grips a bit big for my smaller hands. The Hardballer, on the other hand, fits perfectly and makes me feel like saying “Sarah Connor?” every time I take it to the range. 😃 What, no phased plasma rifle in the preferable 40 watt range? 😉 Thanks for the correction. I’ll still admit to envy… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-gun-picture-thread/333256.md?page=2)