# The SDMB "He Hate Me, He Hate Me Not" Football League **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 21, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924 "2003-07-21T14:50:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/241 "2003-09-03T03:28:52Z")
Thanks **Wilson** , I thought I was going to have to actually explain my crappy joke. As for a real prediction (and this one includes Sunday’s games), why don’t I start small and just guarantee a win, eh **Dave**? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/242 "2003-09-03T04:06:34Z")
Silly WL, the Red Sox are a _baseball_ team. This is fantasy _football_. It’s ok, you can pretend to play with the adults, and we’ll even give you a lollypop when the season’s over! Yes! Your own lollypop! You like lollies? Do you? You do!! keetchy-keetchy! Awww, isn’t he just the _cutest_ thing? ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/243 "2003-09-03T05:31:03Z")
Haven’t been on the SDMB much the last week or so, so I just caught up on about 100 posts in this thread. My **vote for the playoffs** , if the matter hasn’t been decided, is **8 teams, weeks 14, 15, 16.** > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mrchan \* > \*\*I think Rhino has the team to beat and mostly because (and i’m being completely serious here) he picked up emmitt in the 7th. > > you made me grad kevin faulk instead… bleh =P \*\* Thanks for the vote of confidence. 🙂 I think my team is solid, as long as Bledsoe doesn’t stink it up. Later. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/244 "2003-09-03T11:58:30Z")
Just looking for insights, here’s our Fantasy team picked last night: QBs: McNair, Brees RBs: Portis, C. Martin, Buckhalter WRs: Moulds, D. Stallworth, P. Price, Boerigter, Thrash K: Elam Def: NY Giants There are twelve teams with twelve players each. Starters are 1 QB, 1-3 RBs, 1-3 WRs (total of 4 RBs and WRs), 1 K, 1 Def. You can use TEs as WRs, but don’t have to carry one. I was surprised at how many TEs were selected yesterday, maybe 7 or so, when usually it’s T. Gonzalez and J. Shockey. Any opinions? I thin that depending on how McNair weathers the season and how the RB situation develops in Philly, we could have an excellent team. I should also point out that our scoring favors TDs scored from far away, so WRs can rack up points much more quickly than RBs, although they do tend to be a bit more erratic. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/245 "2003-09-03T14:03:16Z")
Ouch on the RBs there, Shibb. Lemme try to pull these out into rounds: 1. Portis 2. Moulds 3. Martin 4. Price 5. Buckhalter 6. McNair 7. Stallworth 8. Giants 9. Elam 10. Brees 11. Boerigter 12. Thrash You should try to deal for some RBs toot sweet. Or pick them off the wire. Thrash should be your first victim. Take a gamble on one of the Chicago backs, LaMont Jordan or Marcell Shipp. Having the option to start 3 RBs means that you pick 3 RBs to start. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/246 "2003-09-03T14:45:28Z")
Quick tally for the playoffs; please let me know if these are wrong: Baltimore Weirdos: Third Ward Soljas: 15, 16 (_) The Fighting Quakers: Omnis Omnipotents: 14, 15, 16 Steel Reign: 15, 16 Hamlets Evildoers: doesn’t care Rhinosaurs: 14, 15, 16 NajehsLaundryService: 14, 15, 16 Fourth and Nineteen (Wilson?): 15, 16 Kung Fu Fighters: 14, 15, 16 or 14, 15 RubberNippleSalesmen (mb?): 14, 15, 16 @%_&#$!!! : WLs Red Sox: 15, 16 Unskilled Hacks: \*made under the impression that we’d have 2 inactive teams, which have since shown up. 4 team playoffs: 4 votes 8 team playoffs: 4 votes ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/247 "2003-09-03T14:52:09Z")
I’ll stick with the 4 playoff teams in week 15/16, even if everyone is active. ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/248 "2003-09-03T14:54:59Z")
I’ll stick with the 4 playoff teams in week 15/16, even if everyone is active. I’m sure something can be done to keep it interesting for anyone out of the playoff race at the end of the season. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/249 "2003-09-03T14:58:58Z")
I’m supposed to vote? I say we do this like the NBA and have all the teams make the playoffs! Umm…8 team playoff, 14, 15, 16 ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/250 "2003-09-03T15:33:28Z")
NurseC, check your team page. (posting this in case you dont have email notification turned on for trade offers) ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/251 "2003-09-03T16:01:31Z")
Man. I haven’t been getting the offer emails. Shucks, I’m popular. I vote for 4 team playoffs as well. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/252 "2003-09-03T16:15:05Z")
NC, if you want the offer e-mails, go into your team profile (at the VERY top of the league page), and click on the league e-mail updates. Yahoo doesn’t send anything extraneous, just updates on when trades go through, your waiver claims are processed or denied and when trades are offered to you. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/253 "2003-09-03T17:02:39Z")
NC, I rejected your counteroffer…you’d have been really taking me to the cleaners with that one. I re-proposed my original offer…if you’re not interested, thats cool. I’m not interested in anything else so just reject if you dont want it. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/254 "2003-09-03T17:40:24Z")
I have a problem… I had all the slots filled in my league, and the draft went well. After the draft I noticed that I had chosen the starting lineups incorrectly- Yahoo was playing all my players, including the bench. It was my stupid mistake. I created a new league (I had to drop my team in Osip’s league) and everybody but one player signed up for the new league, which I configured correctly this time. Since I can’t dissolve the old league now, the last player can’t sign on with a new team- Yahoo won’t let him. So I’m stuck with an extra team, and I need someone to sign up today so that I can enter the drafts and start the season. Here’s the team: QB- Warner, Gannon, Brees RB- M. Faulk, Portis, W, Green, Jordan WR- Holt, Boston, Mason, Rogers TE- Stevens, Lewis, Manumaleuna WR/RB Toomer, Canidate K- M. Gramatica, Wilkins DT- Atlanta, St. Louis Would somebody please help this poor team and league? You can sign up here: ID: 494113 pw: donna Many thanks to whoever joins in- email me or respond here. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/255 "2003-09-03T17:57:03Z")
Ok, I signed up. Now what? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/256 "2003-09-03T18:00:20Z")
Thanks, Dave, and welcome to the league. All the rest of the players are Steeler fans like me, so you represent the rest of the NFL, I think. I’ll have it ready for lineups in about an hour. Thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/257 "2003-09-03T18:32:34Z")
Oh, man, if you’re all Stiller fans… can i quit and rejoin with another team name? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/258 "2003-09-03T18:35:10Z")
Yahoo won’t let him in? Why, is he full with 4 teams? Just have him create another Yahoo ID. Bit of a pain to have to switch IDs to access that league, but it’s better than sitting out. And as a bonus he gets to join 3 more leagues. 😉 That’s a monster team, btw. Must be 8 or fewer players? **Shibb** , I mostly agree with **El Muncho** on your team (too bad about Tiki, especially with the custom rules about long-distance TDs, of which C-Mart will score 0 this season). Mcnair will be super, your only flaw is at RB depth, but (and this is where I disagree with **der Munchenheimer** ) depending on how well you’re rewarded for long TDs, your WRs are _built_. Stallworth and Price are both fast, downfield guys, and Moulds will score a lot himself. Depending on matchups I wouldn’t be surprised to see you start all three of them along with Portis on a given week. Glad to see you back **NC**! > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by \*\*BabaBooey \*\*\* > I’ll stick with the 4 playoff teams in week 15/16, even if everyone is active. I’m sure something can be done to keep it interesting for anyone out of the playoff race at the end of the season. Like have keepers so that the league doesn’t end when the season’s over? If that’s not enough, we could have a special boobie prize for the 5th place guy that misses the playoffs. Personally I think if we’re going to have a proper keeper league it’s better to keep the playoffs small to reward teams that excel in the regular season. But I really don’t have a strong opinion. You can change my vote to .5 votes in favor of 4 teams so that in case it comes down to a tie there won’t be a problem. My main preference is to make sure that whatever happens, we’re not playing in Week 17. Looking back I see that’s not being considered so I’m sure I’ll be happy either way. There’s only one winner anyway, so however the rest of you guys want to work out the spots from 2 on down is fine with me. I’m sorry to tell you this **Dave** , but you’re just digging your own grave – the more you make fun of me now the worse it’ll look for you when I send you packing Week 1. If I were you I’d be praising my team now, to soften the blow. On preview: Oh lordy, this is priceless! After sandbagging us all with the anti-smack-talk talk, **Steelerphan** has now lured the hapless **Dave** into _a league full of Steeler fans!_ ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/259 "2003-09-03T18:37:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by \*\*Weirddave \*\*\* > Oh, man, if you’re all Stiller fans… can i quit and rejoin with another team name? You can change it in ‘team settings’. I love this. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/260 "2003-09-03T18:44:28Z")
Hey **MB** , a guy’s gotta try, doesn’t he? I’m tempted, but a decent running back is weighted just slightly more than a decent WR. Man, that was a tough one to pass, being a homer and all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924.md?page=14)