# The SDMB "He Hate Me, He Hate Me Not" Football League **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 21, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924 "2003-07-21T14:50:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/101 "2003-07-31T14:02:19Z")
I actually may not be able to make it to Canton on Monday. Damn. Oh well, preseason sucks ass. All I’d see would be Holmes sitting on the bench for all but 3 plays, and Najeh taking all the snaps for Ahman Green. The only thing preseason football does is screw with my rankings. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/102 "2003-07-31T14:16:48Z")
Okay, well I won’t get up at 5 am to watch that, and I really doubt that you’ll get up at 4 am, although if you’re in NO, then you might still be up at 4 am. **Munch** , you’re driving up to Canton? How far is that from Indy? Or how far from Cincy? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/103 "2003-07-31T14:24:17Z")
I have no idea. It doesn’t look like I’ll be able to make it. I’d probably have to leave work early (not going to happen), and get in late the next morning (also not going to happen). See the Chefs, get fired. See the Chefs, get fired… So tempting. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/104 "2003-07-31T14:33:31Z")
You’re really a Chefs fan, eh? Well, to each his own. It’ll be on TV anyway. ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/105 "2003-07-31T14:52:40Z")
“Okay, well I won’t get up at 5 am to watch that, and I really doubt that you’ll get up at 4 am, although if you’re in NO, then you might still be up at 4 am.” Definitely will. Have a Better than Ezra concert that night, so should make for good times. ---
**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/106 "2003-07-31T17:00:17Z")
in the pick 'em league. could go either way on the keeper problem. definitely do not want championship to be week 17. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/107 "2003-07-31T17:22:41Z")
**Shibb** , I don’t remember who won last year’s pickem league. It wasn’t me, I know that. I couldn’t get over the hump and get past 2nd or 3rd place all season. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/108 "2003-08-06T03:26:54Z")
Boy, that Canton Hall of Fame game last night was the bee’s knees. Speaking of knees, Priest Holmes’ seemed to be operational. If anyone wants the #1 pick in the draft, proposition me. “Interesting” deals will be considered. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/109 "2003-08-06T03:46:43Z")
Yeah, who am I supposed to take with #2? Holmes _did_ look functional last night. And the keeper thing just complicates matters. PS, anybody know the Vegas odds on the Bucs repeating? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/110 "2003-08-06T04:13:03Z")
I stayed up all night for the Tokyo game, and watched the first half. then I slept for a while, got up and went to the Pittsburgh Micro-Dope. Good brownies. It looks like Priest is OK, and Ahman had some playing time, from last night’s short game. It seems the Hall of Fame bowl is a lightning rod for… lightning. I posted in **dantheman’s** thread, and I’ll repeat here: I have 4 slots left open in my FF league; first come first served. The ID is 183709, the password is donna. Is anyone else playing six teams? I gotta stop signing up… ---
**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/111 "2003-08-06T16:38:06Z")
Who is Fourth and Nineteen? trade me the 14th draft spot for the 13th draft spot? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/112 "2003-08-06T18:18:21Z")
**neuroman** , I don’t want the first draft position, just the first _pick_. Can I trade you for that? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/113 "2003-08-06T18:34:23Z")
Interesting… ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/114 "2003-08-06T20:49:20Z")
I don’t know who asked, but Team @%\*&#$!!! is me. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/115 "2003-08-06T21:25:04Z")
Hey, if anyone wants to trade draft positions, make sure you let me know by noon(ish) of draft day. Individual picks will be traded at the owners’ expenses. A confirmation of any such pick trading may want to publish that trade in this thread, to avoid any confusion/backstabbing. [Here](http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm)’s a handy pick value calculator. Digging through the site it appears a pick trade is favorable if you get at least 10% return from the values it spits out. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/116 "2003-08-07T21:18:18Z")
I’m Fourth and Nineteen, and I’ll stay with my #14 spot pretty much, I think. I figure I can safely get Ray Lucas and Maurice Clarett at 14 and 15. ---
**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/117 "2003-08-07T21:35:46Z")
not if i can help it… ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/118 "2003-08-07T22:06:32Z")
Can I use my first round pick to get the rights to Robert Smith for when he returns? If not I’ll be happy with Fasani… ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/119 "2003-08-08T15:26:40Z")
CRAP! I have class the night of the draft! However, I’ll have 5 minutes to spare from when class gets out to draft time. No, I won’t be anxious at _all_… ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/120 "2003-08-08T19:07:50Z")
One word for you **Munch** : Preselect! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924.md?page=7)