# The SDMB "He Hate Me, He Hate Me Not" Football League

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 21, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924 "2003-07-21T14:50:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/121 "2003-08-08T19:12:07Z")

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I’m all over it, Shibb. And the best part about it is that I’m not in the class yet. The online registration was goofed up last night, when there was an opening in the class. Now that the glitch is fixed and I’m allowed to register, the class is closed.

So I have to kiss up to my professor the same day I need to ditch 10 minutes into it.

DEElightful.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/122 "2003-08-08T19:18:05Z")

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Not 10 minutes into it, 10 minutes before the end of it. That wouldn’t fly, that’s for sure!

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/123 "2003-08-08T20:50:25Z")

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The first 2 or 3 rounds should be a breeze to predraft. It’s the middle rounds that are important anyway.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/124 "2003-08-08T21:10:37Z")

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Will it let me in if I’m late?

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**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/125 "2003-08-08T21:17:31Z")

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pretty sure u can enter at any time during the draft. just pre draft, get there as fast as you can, and we will try and stall. i’m sure WL will take all the alotted time for his picks anyway, hehe.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/126 "2003-08-08T21:35:04Z")

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I always do. Yeah, you can enter the draft at any time. Remember last year when I overslept and didn’t show up until like the 14th round, bitching and whining about my crappy computer-selected team? You too can be that cool.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/127 "2003-08-25T17:04:28Z")

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Draft is tomorrow! Hope everybody’s ready for the nightmare to begin.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/128 "2003-08-25T17:11:17Z")

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Good bump, WL…was meaning to do the same thing.

I posted a message in that thread that we should have our playoffs either start on week 14 or 15, and that the championship game should be in week 16. It makes good sense ( to me, at least ) with 14 teams that after you play everyone once, the playoffs should start.

Anyone agree/disagree?

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/129 "2003-08-25T17:15:12Z")

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Week 14 is too early - 15/16 sounds good to me for playoffs.

- Wilson, still hoping to get Vick and Pennington in rounds 1 and 2

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/130 "2003-08-25T18:03:22Z")

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I’d vote playoffs in 15 and 16. We’d have to double up on one team you play twice, but that’s alright.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/131 "2003-08-25T18:45:28Z")

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Cool by me.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/132 "2003-08-25T18:55:07Z")

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I just posted another post on the league board regarding an 8 team playoff. Since the league is so big, it would help increase activity later in the season for the teams not doing so well. Of course, that’s why it’s a keeper league - we have people committed to full seasons.

But Week 14,15 and 16 playoff would have everyone play each other once, and then go into the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/133 "2003-08-25T19:35:41Z")

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That was my original thought, everyone plays each other one time, and then 8 teams into a single elim playoffs. I like the idea, but either way is not a big deal to me.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/134 "2003-08-25T20:21:25Z")

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Either way is fine by me too. See you tonight.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/135 "2003-08-25T20:52:11Z")

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You mean tomorrow night?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/136 "2003-08-25T20:54:08Z")

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Ummmmmm, yeah, I mean tomorrow night. 'Cause like tonight I’m DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO SEE YOU. Yep.

Yessiree Bob.

I’m NOT GOING TO BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE tonight and DUCT TAPE YOU TO THE CHAIR SO YOU CAN’T DRAFT AND HAVE TO RELY ON AUTODRAFTING.

Nope, I’m not going to see you tonight at all…

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/137 "2003-08-25T21:09:28Z")

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Boy, I’m glad he’s talking to Bob, and not to me!

Here’s one half-hearted vote against 8 team playoffs… having over half the league make the playoffs sounds so NBA to me. I’d prefer just 4 teams to make the regular season more meaningful.

But, if there’s strong support for 8 team playoffs, I’ll go along quietly. Even without duct tape.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/138 "2003-08-26T05:27:22Z")

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Yeah, let’s just go with a 4 team playoff, since it is a keeper league so there’s at least always hope for next year. The 13-week season and 3-week playoff fits so neatly that I almost vote for it on principle, but 8 teams is just too many.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/139 "2003-08-26T13:33:17Z")

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Okay, let’s tally it up:

**WL** : 4 team playoff  
**Wilson** : 4 team playoff  
**Hamlet** : 4 of one, 8 of the other (doesn’t care)  
**Munch** : 8 team playoff

2 to 1

Anyone else care either way?

Also, here’s something that came up on my draft on Sunday: how do we determine next year’s draft order? We decided earlier that the first person gets to choose his spot, etc. But who’d the first person? Playoff champ, or regular season champ? For my money league, the money went to the playoff champ, and first draft order went to regular season champ. But there’s no money here.

Thoughts (we have all season to worry about this one)?

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924/140 "2003-08-26T14:41:23Z")

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I’d vote for playoff champ.  
A more important question for me is: how much time for each pick? 198 selections starting at 9.30 could go WELL into the night. I vote for 90 secs or 2 mins, tops.

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