# The SDMB Music Appreciation Society

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 23, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539 "2014-01-23T18:10:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/221 "2016-01-30T09:02:08Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The first couple of minutes had an excellent bassline, fantastic vocals, meaty horn stabs and a terrific flow. Then it was completely ruined for me at the 2:35 mark or so when it stopped and restarted as a confused mess. I suppose one could argue that musically the song was emulating the plight of the singer, but for me it fell apart and never got back together again. It’s a real shame too, as before that happened I was hearing all kinds of references to the music of Curtis Mayfield, Teddy Pendergrass (and of course Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes), Isaac Hayes, etc. I’ve never heard of Aloe Blacc before, but I’ll keep an ear out and hope that the first couple of minutes were more representative of his work than the last 90 seconds. Thanks for the intro.  
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I reviewed the video at that link and you are correct. At the 2:35 mark is does stop and then restart with some confused mess.

But there must be something wrong with that link because the song that I have is 3:23 and it doesn’t change to that mess around 2:35. It continues on in the same way. I can only think that whoever uploaded that link to Youtube never checked the entire video or that someone is playing some stupid trick.

I guess from now on I will have to check every Youtube link before I post it in this thread.

Sorry.

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**Author:** ![journeyman\_southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5e9695/32.png) [@journeyman\_southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/journeyman_southpaw)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/222 "2016-02-01T23:52:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Snowboarder Bo]  
My pick is a band who formed from the ashes of NYC’s awesome hardcore band Gorilla Biscuits. They recorded two albums and then broke up, even tho both albums are fantastic. Named after the lead singer, Anthony Civarelli, they enjoyed some airplay success but IIRC their sales never took off the way other breaking bands of the time like Offspring and Helmet did. I still think their music holds up well and enjoy pounding my steering wheel whenever one of their tunes shuffles it’s way up on my iPhone; some of y’all may even remember hearing this on the radio yourselves; here’s [CIV - Can’t Wait One Minute More](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZXgBH7v9c).  
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Not the radio but Beavis and Butthead (they thought they were watching Montel Williams :p) I know nothing about this band or Gorilla Biscuits but this is the kind of punk I prefer, the bouncy garage rock “Lust for Life” kind of stuff. I clicked on their album along the right side of the screen and didn’t like anything else on it so I guess if that song was their stab at being commercial it worked on me.

I was on a twee pop kick the other day so here is something from a twee, somewhat folky artist from Sweden called Hello Saferide, I’m choosing not to describe anything about the song or the video for a reason that I expect will be understood when it ends. This is [“Anna”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBILTiLIJM0).

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/223 "2016-02-02T09:35:04Z")

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Wow, nice. What a clever way to express [spoiler]wistful regret[spoiler]. I’ve heard a lot of [spoiler]heartbreak/breakup[spoiler] songs, but that’s definitely a new take on that genre.

The last song I posted was admittedly pretty long. So let’s take it the other way, with IMO one of the greatest all time high-energy pop-rock songs, that gets in and out in a svelte two and a half minutes:

[The Primitives - “Crash”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Zw_M9L1yI)

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/224 "2016-02-02T21:22:18Z")

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Can anyone advise me as to how I can go about asking a question about this thread without breaking the rules set out in the OP by the OP?

I really liked the song “Crash” by “The Primitives”. I know that I have heard that song many times before in many diff contexts. Probably in diff movies. Can anyone tell me just where I have likely heard that song before? I’d really love to know.

But, there is no way that I can hang around and discuss that. There’s just not enough time.

In the future, I will have to be more careful about that sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/225 "2016-02-02T23:07:35Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
>
> Can anyone advise me as to how I can go about asking a question about this thread without breaking the rules set out in the OP by the OP?
> 
> I really liked the song “Crash” by “The Primitives”. I know that I have heard that song many times before in many diff contexts. Probably in diff movies. Can anyone tell me just where I have likely heard that song before? I’d really love to know.
> 
> But, there is no way that I can hang around and discuss that. There’s just not enough time.
> 
> In the future, I will have to be more careful about that sort of thing.

Big fan of Dumb & Dumber I see. :eek:

Don’t be ashamed…fellow fan here. 😃

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/226 "2016-02-03T00:15:44Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
>
> Big fan of Dumb & Dumber I see. :eek:
> 
> Don’t be ashamed…fellow fan here. 😃

Oh, my! Dumb & Dumber you say?

I will get right on that and check it out. Thank you ever so much. I will try to let you know if I find it.

Much appreciated!

🙂

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/227 "2016-02-03T00:26:35Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
>
> Big fan of Dumb & Dumber I see. :eek:
> 
> Don’t be ashamed…fellow fan here. 😃

Oh, my! Dumb & Dumber you say?

I will get right on that and check it out. Thank you ever so much. I will try to let you know if I find it.

Much appreciated!

🙂

Thank you. Thank you.

I skimmed through the entire film (1994 version) and finally found that song right at the end - in the closing credits.

I was very happy to have found it. What a great song!

I will now post a link to A-Ha’s song Analogue (All I Want). It has a nice strong bass which I love.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T-Q04ZvzrjA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGHIgWSg5MA8=&rs=AOn4CLAO1Bw3XYOGejtAtRnRi6Rnn9ZxwA "A-ha Analogue (All I Want)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Q04ZvzrjA)

It is also very melodic and I enjoy listening to it very much. I hope you all will enjoy it too.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/228 "2016-02-04T06:46:40Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
>
> I will now post a link to A-Ha’s song Analogue (All I Want). It has a nice strong bass which I love.
> 
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Q04ZvzrjA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Q04ZvzrjA)
> 
> It is also very melodic and I enjoy listening to it very much. I hope you all will enjoy it too.
> 
> 🙂

Pop music. This track is kinda bland, the dynamics are fake (the overdriven guitar does not signify anything, for example) and the song just kind of meanders along until it finally draws to a close. The production does keep the bassline solid in the mix, aye. I know this band has had a good long career and I also know that their fans are very loyal, but they just aren’t my style.

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**The Primitives** have a long history in my music collection; I bought _Lovely_ and _Pure_ while I was in college. _Crash_ is a great song and was a great way to introduce them to the world (it’s the 1st cut on their 1st album, if y’all didn’t know). They got back together a few years ago and while I didn’t think their new material was particularly compelling, I did appreciate the fact that they were at least still up-tempo, borderline psychedelic Britpop tunes, kinda like Dukes of Stratosphear without the weirdness. Good pick, **Slacker**.

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**Hello Saferide** was okay. Nothing I’d seek out on my own, but for a pop song it was passable. I thought the lyrical content was really good; it’s always nice to see a pop song that is about something meaningful.

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**CIV** was a hardcore group, **journeyman** , no doubt about that, but they did also release a couple of Adam Ant-inspired tunes (did anyone else hear it?) like the one I linked. I like all their songs, but that one I’m especially fond of for some reason.

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**Charlie** , it’s fine to pop in and ask questions; the rules are there to prevent drive-by postings, prevent linking to multiple songs in a single post and to encourage real analysis of the songs. This is a Music Appreciation Society thread, not just a “my turn; listen to this” thread.

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I’m gonna get away from the Scandinavia/Euro/Britpop theme we’ve been running lately and post a song from a band that has to date released only one album. Mind you, IMO it’s a fucking fantastic album. These guys are from New York City (as the name conveys) but they traveled to San Juan, Puerto Rico in 2005 and worked with a bunch of awesome artists. Their music is a crazy blend of jazz, salsa, soul music, funk, R&B, bossa nova and rock. They are at the top of my list of people to seek out next time I am in NYC; here’s [Bronx River Parkway - Me Toca](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6l36GzVvQ4).

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/229 "2016-03-25T17:28:04Z")

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The A-ha video was taken down for copyright violation. I found the video on the band’s official page, so [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_J5-gmhRA) should hold up. I thought it was a very pleasant, inoffensive song to listen to, but I probably wouldn’t go out of my way to listen to it again. It was interesting though to learn that they are still together (or still were as of 2010) and that their lead singer was still so handsome at age 50.

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
>
> **The Primitives** have a long history in my music collection; I bought _Lovely_ and _Pure_ while I was in college. _Crash_ is a great song and was a great way to introduce them to the world (it’s the 1st cut on their 1st album, if y’all didn’t know). They got back together a few years ago and while I didn’t think their new material was particularly compelling, I did appreciate the fact that they were at least still up-tempo, borderline psychedelic Britpop tunes, kinda like Dukes of Stratosphear without the weirdness. Good pick, **Slacker**.

Thanks!

“Dukes of Stratosphear without the weirdness” sounds pretty weird in its own way. Wouldn’t that just be XTC? 😃

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I really liked “Me Toca”, as I kind of figured I would from the description (I tend to enjoy Cuban and Brazilian jazz, and classic funk). I am now listening to the album on Apple Music. Thanks for introducing me to this. Very cool. 🆒

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Funny how free association leads you to a song sometimes.

I saw a web ad for Burger King’s new chili dog, and “chili dog” always makes me think of “suckin’ on chili dog, outside the Tastee-Freez”, the lyric from “Jack and Diane” by John Cougar (née Mellencamp). So I got that song stuck in my head (an “earworm”, as they say these days). It struck me that there was something rather wistful and nostalgic about the song, and I thought I ought to create an Apple Music playlist called “Wistful/Nostalgic”.

But what other songs could fit on such a list? I wondered. And the very first one that popped into my mind, despite the fact that I hadn’t thought of the song in years that I can recall, was “'74-'75” by the Connells. I had never seen [the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ITv4OBV9c) until I found it just now to post here, but it certainly fits the label I gave it even more than the song on its own.

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**Author:** ![journeyman\_southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5e9695/32.png) [@journeyman\_southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/journeyman_southpaw)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/230 "2016-03-25T23:27:01Z")

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My music triggered from hearing references to chili dogs is different from yours (do a search for ‘pats chili dogs’ on Youtube).

Anyway, never heard this song before although I see it was a hit in Europe. I would describe it as a non-metal version of Metallica’s “Unforgiven” (and now I see that someone else on Youtube thought so too and did a mash-up of the two tracks). Well that’s cool, I always liked that song. A memorable video as well, which probably helped the song become a hit.

To keep up the “wistful/nostalgic” theme I thought about posting The Kinks “Come Dancing” or the Ramones’ “Do You Remember Rock ‘n’ Roll Radio”, but those songs are already pretty well known. So instead here’s one of the better Stones tracks of one of their lesser-loved albums (Goat Head Soup), this is [100 Years Ago.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrciVFFw3iQ)

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/231 "2016-03-25T23:47:58Z")

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_Goats Head Soup_ is a great album (I just added “Angie” to the “Wistful/Nostalgic” list, actually) although I’ve never really keyed into that song in particular.

I had no idea the Connells song was a hit in Europe (especially Scandinavia). Weird! In looking up that info, I see that there is a new (2015) version of the video, going back and showing the classmates again, “UP” series style. TBH, when I read that, I thought “ohhh…that explains how they looked in the video” because I assumed that must be the one I already showed since the original video was made in 1993 and (IMO) the people in it looked a lot older than 36 for the most part.

But no, [here is the updated version](http://www.newsobserver.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/on-the-beat-blog/article44760318.html). I still think these people aged remarkably quickly, especially in their thirties.

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**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/232 "2016-03-27T13:17:51Z")

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I didn’t see a song in post 230, so I listened to 100 years ago. It’s a Stones song that I hadn’t heard before (I’ve really only heard their better known stuff), and was much more mellow than I’m used to from them, with a few nice changes of pace.

For my contribution to the thread, I’ll give you something completely different.

[Malhar jam](https://youtu.be/grHr39Ej7P8) by Agam, in Coke Studio India. The song is devoid of lyrics, so it should be pretty accessible. It’s based on an Indian classical raga celebrating the joy of rain (if you lived in India, you would like rain too 🙂 ), mixed up with rock.

More about the program Coke Studio - it started in Pakistan, basically an attempt at fusion of local folk music and rock. As good as the Pakistani version was, and it was very good, I always felt it was a little limited, which is why I was thrilled when Coke Studio India finally got its act together in its second season and brought in the diversity that the many different cultural traditions in India can contribute.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/233 "2016-05-17T16:12:53Z")

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Is the Agam devoid of lyrics in any language (like, just using his voice as an instrument)? Or did you mean for most of us English speaking Westerners on this board?

I really loved the intro. I would have been happy just to bliss out on that sort of thing for a few minutes. But then I liked it much less once it started to “rock out”. There was a pretty cool instrumental interlude in the middle that kind of reminded me of Dave Matthews Band.

My next contribution is a song that’s four decades old, but brand new to me:

[Flamin’ Groovies - “Shake Some Action”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIcmk8WA10A)

I have no idea at this point what turned me on to it. At some point a few weeks ago, something I read or heard made me open up the Wiki page for this album on my phone, clearly as a reminder to “check this out”. By the time I finally did indeed check it out, all memory of the source of the inspiration was gone. But in any case, I discovered a cool album and in particular, an awesome title track. Just a basic, pure power-poppy infectious groove. I think it should appeal to fans of Big Star in particular–in fact, if I had just randomly heard it somewhere, I might have thought that’s exactly what it was.

I love the live-performance-style “whoo!” thrown in midway through. 🙂

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/234 "2016-05-17T21:51:35Z")

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My first try at this thread, let’s see what happens.

Take some action is basically an insrumentl arrangement, not a bad one, the perdussion pretty tolerble, but not one Id add to my playlist. The vocal, well, there is no melody to speak of, and the vocalists do not demonstrate any passable skill as singers. Overall, I’d give it a negative, but the arrangement alone probably at least 5/10.

Now here’s mine. I’m generally pretty uninterested in the modern sound of music, but I heard this in Central Asia, and it caught my attention. A Russian folk song with a totally non-traditional flafor, by Zventa Sventana:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/PRJplGJhctM?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLA34046A4B9425E66

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/235 "2016-05-18T17:33:57Z")

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Weird, so they re-worked a Russian folk song as an psychedelic R+B tune. It’s pretty cool, even though I’m probably more in love with the production and arrangement than the song itself. I loved the heavy stereo tremolo on the electric piano at the beginning, and the individual instruments dropping in and out to make the song ebb, flow, and crash in waves.

Quite nice, really.

In a fit of unmitigated pleasantness, I’ll offer Jorgen Ingmann’s [Echo Boogie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1cZ5zUacVQ) from 1960. It’s a fluffy, sugary bite from the height of Rock’s instrumental period, totally focused on how you can use a tape echo to dictate the tempo of a song and make it cascade. Plus, I’ve had the single for ages, and my brother had never heard it until last weekend. Folks should know about this thing.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/236 "2016-05-19T21:46:10Z")

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I remember Ingmanns “Apache” from about the same time, which I hated.This Boogie is certainly a lot better. But quite honestly, I disliked all the instrumentals in that rock era. Echo Boogie does have a bit of class to it, though, and I found it starting to grow on me. But still, no pop instrumentalsl for me.

Let me introduce you to the most refreshing new singer Ive found in a decade. Marie Jo Therio is a French Canadian singer from New Brunswick, and has a timelessness about her recording session. She has a feeing to express, a story to tell, she winds her way through it, and it ends when she is finished. The French lyrics describe a girl with a wild spirit being courted by a man who would tie her down, and invites her to a (real life) cafe in her home town (Moncton) that specializes in quiche. “I want to draw birds that come from countries you don’t even know.” I think she accompanies herself on piano.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fC3eUxbMsrc/hqdefault.jpg ""Le café Robinson" - Marie-Jo Thério") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC3eUxbMsrc)

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/237 "2016-05-20T10:01:49Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
>
> But still, no pop instrumentalsl for me.

As a member of an instrumental surf band: THIS CANNOT STAND, I DEMAND SATISFACTION! Strap-on dildos at…is 3pm good for you…maybe after dinner? Ehh, we’ll play it by ear.

[quote=“jtur88, post:236, topic:679539”]

Let me introduce you to the most refreshing new singer Ive found in a decade. Marie Jo Therio is a French Canadian singer from New Brunswick, and has a timelessness about her recording session. She has a feeing to express, a story to tell, she winds her way through it, and it ends when she is finished. The French lyrics describe a girl with a wild spirit being courted by a man who would tie her down, and invites her to a (real life) cafe in her home town (Moncton) that specializes in quiche. “I want to draw birds that come from countries you don’t even know.” I think she accompanies herself on piano.

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Hehehe, the “Holy Shit” in the intro of a soft song that’s otherwise in a language that I don’t understand made me lean toward liking it immediately. To be honest, that I can’t understand the rest of the lyrics is probably a feature. It sounds very earnest. I can stand earnest sounding songs, but not earnest lyrics. In fact, lyrics are more likely to drive me away from a song than any other aspect. However, the exclamation at the beginning makes me think she might be clever enough to pull off lyrics I could like even if I could understand French.

The musical portion is almost written so inoffensively that it could almost veer into inoffensively bland. But! There’s a nice movement in mood and dynamics, and they contrast the rhythm of the vocals with the accompaniment in a way that reminds me of a Carpenters song. It’s really well put together. If I have a complaint it’s that they didn’t take enough in the way of chances, even if they took some. At the very least, I’m thankful that it doesn’t sound like it ends on the root note.

I’m not sure that I’d seek it out again, but I’m glad I spent the time listening to it enough to digest it.

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Hmm, now I’m at this point, where I gotta decide to what to go with. In honor of **jtur88** ’s first submissions to this thread, I’ve been considering either posting a song I don’t understand the lyrics to, or a song that is a vast re-working of the original.

(checks thread to make sure he’s not repeating himself, drinks a beer (and a whiskey, too) and has a smoke to think about it, listens to both songs a few times)  
[del]OK, you guys get the vastly re-worked cover this time.[/del] Nope, nope, nope, nope. You get the song I can’t understand the lyrics to. [Pena Tras Pena](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1_dBoFFBIg) by Banda el Recordo.Why post it? I almost don’t know. I don’t understand the lyrics, They could be all about how they’re gonna take me, personally, out back and kick my ass after they’re done with the song - _but it sounds so good, I still gotta love it_. If I could figure out how to comp and build chords on a guitar like the ranchrera\* horn section in this band (or really, most of the ones of this style) can comp chords when they blaze through the louder sections of this song, I’d be a very happy man. It’s the heavy metal version of horns. Plus, that tuba!

AYA! HA HA HA!

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Umm, I left this off, and missed the edit window, but the asterisk endnote should have read:

- If anyone knows of a more precise word to refer to this particular loud style of ranchera, this particular gringo would be massively appreciative.

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Umm, Soy un idiota gringo. That should be Banda El Recodo.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-music-appreciation-society/679539/240 "2016-05-20T17:16:24Z")

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You’re tugging at my heart. I love Ranchero, but only in small doses, and I find this particular singer a little too gritty. Here in South Texas, I hear this kind of music all the time, on weekends I can open my door and hear it wafting in from a distance. Really good arrangement, nice polka. Did you know, theh polka originated in Mexican music from eastern European miners who came to make their fortuna and brought their instrument,s and the Mexicans fell i love with it.

Here’s another foreign language song, but with helpful English lyrics onscreen. Soukous originated as a jazz form in the mid 20th century in Dar es Salaam, and still thrives as a popular form across Africa, now centered mostly in Kinshasa. African languages are ideally suited to rhythmic music, as all syllables are given equal weight in the phonetics. The effect is beautiful and hypnotic.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1x1qFqbxM)

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