# The SDMB Stupid, Stupid Movie Awards **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633 "2005-10-24T05:47:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/62 "2005-10-25T13:46:58Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > _Alien_ is not a science fiction movie, it is a monster movie, it is a horror movie and it is a very successful one at that. I agree completely. It may be in a “science fiction” setting, but it’s a horror movie. To me, the element that made it so brilliant was the timing. **Kingpengvin** touched on this in his post, but I’ll offer an example. (forgive me if I have the details wrong. It’s been forever since I’ve seen it.) At one point, the Tom Skerrit character was descending a ladder. You knew the alien was going to get him at the bottom. You get tenser and tenser as he goes down. His feet are on the ground. Boom…wait. The alien didn’t get him. He looks around. You relax. He’s safe. BOOM! The alien gets him! :eek: The movie did stuff like that all the way through. It didn’t just spring the scary stuff when you weren’t expecting it. It sprang the scary stuff when you were sure it wouldn’t happen. **Troy McClure** : What’s wrong with _Bring it On_? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/63 "2005-10-25T14:04:26Z")
> [@Green Bean](#): > > At one point, the Tom Skerrit character was descending a ladder. You knew the alien was going to get him at the bottom. You get tenser and tenser as he goes down. His feet are on the ground. Boom…wait. The alien didn’t get him. He looks around. You relax. He’s safe. BOOM! The alien gets him! :eek: What happened was cut from the theatrical print, but can be seen on the DVD: Skerritt is seen plastered to the wall in the landing gear section of the ship. He’s been “impregnated” by the alien. Ripley shows up and he begs her to kill him. She does. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/64 "2005-10-25T14:12:21Z")
> [@MacSpon](#): > > Is there anything good to be said about the film **Dungeons and Dragons**? Well, it’s light years ahead of the [sequel](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406728/). ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/65 "2005-10-25T14:26:33Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > But as Doors’ post indicates, it’s a movie that hits different people in different ways. A person can “get” everything you said about this movie and STILL not like it. Taste is taste. * * * I feel strangely compelled to list another movie that some people view as genius and genre breaking but just plain annoyed others: **Blair Witch Project** ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/66 "2005-10-25T14:55:18Z")
in what may be a controversial offering, I nominate **Million Dollar Baby**. [rant] there were so many weak plot lines in this film… we never know why his daughter refuses to open his letters, what happened in their relationship, or if she is even alive… Clint’s character is a vapid man with little commitment to his friends, and he basically walks out on his closest friend in a selfish escape that really has no explanation… to eat pie in a diner? oh, we should assume he bought the place, puhlease! friggin right-to-die euthanasia bullshit story masquerading as a boxing film… the portrayal of a C1/C2 quad was totally unrealistic, and they should be ashamed for inaccurate medical fact writing… the not-as-good-as-in-Shawshank-Redemption Morgan Freeman narrative, and those damn horse teeth… oh, right, I can run away and eat pie and it will all be better… [/rant] ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/67 "2005-10-25T15:00:26Z")
There is not a single thing that makes any sense in **Alien vs Predator**. Nothing. It’s insultingly stupid. I think there’s a posting on this board where someone gave it a proper kicking. Maybe I’ll link to it later. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/68 "2005-10-25T15:01:30Z")
The problem with this sort of thread is it prompts people to respond to defend a movie they like. I am sometimes tempted to do so myself. Having said that, I’m sure there will be people wanting to defend **Donnie Darko.** But for me it was one of the biggest steaming piles of dull that I have ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/69 "2005-10-25T15:04:25Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > The problem with this sort of thread is it prompts people to respond to defend a movie they like. I am sometimes tempted to do so myself. > > Having said that, I’m sure there will be people wanting to defend **Donnie Darko.** But for me it was one of the biggest steaming piles of dull that I have ever seen. I think the thread is veering off its original aim. We’re not talking about _bad_ movies, we’re talking about _stupid_ movies. You may have disliked _Donnie Darko_, but I doubt you’d call it stupid. ---
**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/70 "2005-10-25T15:14:59Z")
> [@Green Bean](#): > > **Troy McClure** : What’s wrong with _Bring it On_? Yeah! What’s wrong with _Bring It On_. All I know is that when you come back to explain yourself, YOU BETTER BRING IT. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/71 "2005-10-25T15:25:07Z")
Couldn’t find the link but this is the text (my bolding) > [@podkayne](#): > > . . . with Alien vs. Predator. **The entire setup was bad. Really bad. Painfully, insultingly stupid.** > > Once the movie stopped insisting on explaining every damn thing in exhaustive detail, (bear in mind that the detail made absolutely no sense and was deeply **stupid** on O, so many levels) and the extraneous characters who were the source of the exhaustive, **stupid** detail finally got cleared out of the way, it settled down into a bland but inoffensive movie about butt-kicking, which is all it really should have been in the first place. > > What this movie really needs is for somebody to chop off the first 45 minutes to get rid of the **insultingly moronic** backstory and the completely ineffective attempt to build tension, and replace it, preferably with more butt-kicking. Never mind the Alien’s unexplained increase in mass in **Alien** , in this film the Aliens go from egg/face-hugger to chest-burster to full size in minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/72 "2005-10-25T15:31:19Z")
Oh, it’s already been broughted! Honestly, folks, I watched _BIO_ once at a friend’s house a few years ago (for two hours, in 1960?), and all I remember is that despite having Kirsten Dunst and Eliza Dushku in cheerleading outfits the whole movie, I still hated it. Can’t remember specifics any more, and I’m not ready to give it another shot yet. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/73 "2005-10-25T15:31:23Z")
> [@Small Clanger](#): > > Couldn’t find the link but this is the text (my bolding) > Never mind the Alien’s unexplained increase in mass in **Alien** , in this film the Aliens go from egg/face-hugger to chest-burster to full size in minutes. Steroids, man, steroids. Explains their surly 'tude, too. ---
**Author:** ![FatBaldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@FatBaldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FatBaldGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/74 "2005-10-25T15:36:00Z")
I’m surprised that no one has nominated **The Net** , one of Sandra Bullock’s more forgettable efforts. All through the movie the bad guys are busy removing all trace of poor Sandra’s existence from computer databases, so that she has no drivers license, credit cards, etc., but at the very end she uploads a virus from a floppy disc to the bad guys’ computer, and all of her missing records are instantly returned. Where’s that pukey smiley when you really need it? ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/75 "2005-10-25T16:08:52Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > The problem with this sort of thread is it prompts people to respond to defend a movie they like. I am sometimes tempted to do so myself. I don’t see that as a problem. That’s what makes this an interesting discussion instead of an exercise in list-making. It’s only a problem when people go overboard in attacking and defending their favorite movies and directors. **Troy** : Give _Bring it On_ another try. I thought it would be idiotic, myself, but it’s actually become a favorite. Why? I dunno. It’s still a movie about cheerleaders. But it cracks me up every time. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/76 "2005-10-25T18:16:59Z")
I will admit I’ve gone from hating to loving a movie- _Mars Attacks!_, to be specific. But I’ve also watched others and had my previous opinions confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Corii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Corii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corii)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/77 "2005-10-25T18:47:29Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > _Starship Troopers_ was horrible. Pointless, gratuitous, violent twaddle. The book was light years better than that tripe. I thought that it was a pretty funny movie. I laughed a lot - was that wrong? Should I not have done that? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/78 "2005-10-25T19:16:35Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > . . . one simply must accept the undeniable facts that Dina Meyers, Casper Van Dien, Denise Richards and Doogie Hauser have leading roles on this film. . . . They’re cartoon characters. The director cast those actors very carefully, specifically because they ARE cartoon characters. He uses bad actors intentionally sometimes, just like John Waters does. Even Hitchcock sometimes very carefully chose stiff, polished, unemotive actresses when he was going for an archetype rather than an authentic human being. (Tippi Hedren? Doris Day? Kim Novak?) In order for \*ST \*to work as a fake propaganda film, it’s very important that the actors are exactly the kind of actors you’d find in a REAL propaganda film. Think of those silly educational films some of us had to watch as kids, which were very similar stylistically to some of the WWII-era propaganda films the director was riffing on. Stiff, \*bad \*actors, more convincing as cardboard cutouts than as actual human beings. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/79 "2005-10-25T19:22:46Z")
> [@Corii](#): > > I thought that it was a pretty funny movie. I laughed a lot - was that wrong? Should I not have done that? The novel it was based on was not a comedy; some fans of the novel are offended that the director of the movie seemed to be laughing at Heinlein. Which he was, so they have a right to be offended. Fans of the novel went to the movie expecting to re-experience what they loved about the book, but instead found themselves being rudely raspberried by the director. Although, to be fair, I’m way better at telling you why I DO like the movie than I would be at telling you why someone else DOESN’T like it. Just distilling past discussions. In any case, there’s no accounting for first impressions. There are plenty of movies that I was just in the wrong frame of mind when I saw them, or something, and they just hit me wrong. Movies that I’m “supposed” to like, but for whatever reasons of personal taste, just don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/80 "2005-10-25T19:31:23Z")
_House of 10,000 Corpses_ was both bad and stupid. I watched it to the end waiting for something, anything worthwhile to happen. I like silly slasher flicks but this wasn’t even good at that. No redeeming qualities at all. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/81 "2005-10-25T19:46:48Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > _Starship Troopers_ was horrible. Pointless, gratuitous, violent twaddle. The book was light years better than that tripe. Twaddle even by the standards of someone casually interested in military action. The supposedly sophisticated warriors in this sci-fi future don’t seem to understand basic principles of cover or fire-and-movement – and the entire Bug horde would have been defeated by a couple of mortar squads, if anyone in the future understood artillery. Sailboat [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633.md?page=5)