# The SDMB Stupid, Stupid Movie Awards

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 24, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633 "2005-10-24T05:47:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/82 "2005-10-25T19:51:34Z")

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I was going to post “What’s wrong with **Bring it on!** ,” but I see that others have already beaten me to that question. Fine. So, I’ll post this:

**Left Hand of Dorkness** , what’s wrong with **Contact**? I liked that movie a lot. If you want to talk manipulative, let’s talk **The Sixth Sense**. However, despite that, I still felt that it was pretty good.

For the OP:

Somebody already mentioned **The Net** as most stupid. It doesn’t get any stupider than that. **D&D** , while bad, wasn’t stupid bad. Unless of course, you’re arguing that you would’ve role played it different in your campaign. 😉

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/83 "2005-10-25T19:51:51Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> Twaddle even by the standards of someone casually interested in military action. The supposedly sophisticated warriors in this sci-fi future don’t seem to understand basic principles of cover or fire-and-movement – and the entire Bug horde would have been defeated by a couple of mortar squads, if anyone in the future understood artillery.

Bingo.

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**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/84 "2005-10-25T19:57:37Z")

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I loved Face-Off ! Great action movie… and the acting wasn’t as bad as you make it out to be…

As for Stupid, Stupid Movie… I felt cheated, offended and treated like a sucker after seeing the **Episode 3 of Star Wars**. Some of the silliest dialogues, scripts and character motivations ever.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/85 "2005-10-25T23:53:43Z")

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> [@mazinger\_z](#):
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> **Left Hand of Dorkness** , what’s wrong with **Contact**? I liked that movie a lot. If you want to talk manipulative, let’s talk **The Sixth Sense**. However, despite that, I still felt that it was pretty good.

I’ll put this in spoilers, but meanwhile we should decide whether unboxed spoilers are appropriate in this thread. And meanwhile I’ll point out that even half a glass of wine REALLY impacts my typing ability: I’m having to retype just about every other word here. Or maybe it’s the mac and cheese.

[spoiler]Remember the scene where the little girl is trying to send a shortwave message to her dead mom? It even had the tiny little violin playing. It was so maudlin that I started laughing. Ridiculous stuff!

And the best thing about the movie was going to be the religious ambiguity at the end: the scientist had discovered faith, and discovered how difficult it could be. But then they ruined it, by telling you that there was evidence to back up her faith; at that point, it’s no longer faith, and the movie loses its greatest potential impact. It’s as if, in Romeo and Juliet, Juliet decides in the third act that Romeo’s an asshole and gets together with some other guy, and that’s the end.[/spoiler]

Daniel

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/86 "2005-10-26T00:12:06Z")

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> [@mazinger\_z](#):
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> **Left Hand of Dorkness** , what’s wrong with **Contact**?

I, too, hated _Contact_. A lot.

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**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/87 "2005-10-26T00:33:32Z")

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> [@Tapioca Dextrin](#):
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> Well, it’s light years ahead of the [sequel](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406728/).

Huh … I’d never even heard of that one. Though the comments on IMDB tend to suggest that the sequel may, in fact, be light years ahead of the original. A rare occurrence, if true. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/88 "2005-10-26T00:47:31Z")

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> [@MacSpon](#):
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> Huh … I’d never even heard of that one. Though the comments on IMDB tend to suggest that the sequel may, in fact, be light years ahead of the original. A rare occurrence, if true. 🙂

I believe it was straight to DVD, and a lot of gamers preferred it to the original–which is like saying that a lot of gamers preferred it to having a bec-de-ranseur-glaivarme swung at them and having to figure out the weapon speed if they’re wearing splint mail in first edition.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/89 "2005-10-26T01:23:55Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> I believe it was straight to DVD, and a lot of gamers preferred it to the original–which is like saying that a lot of gamers preferred it to having a bec-de-ranseur-glaivarme swung at them and having to figure out the weapon speed if they’re wearing splint mail in first edition.
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> Daniel

It was on the SciFi channel last week; I assumed it as a “SciFi Channel Original,” so of course I stayed away in a drove.

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**Author:** ![BooBoo316](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@BooBoo316](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BooBoo316)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/90 "2005-10-26T02:42:34Z")

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> [@MacSpon](#):
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> Is there anything good to be said about the film **Dungeons and Dragons**?

Well, the mage chick was kinda hot and Jeremy Irons overacting at an Olympic level is always good for a chuckle.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/91 "2005-10-26T03:38:15Z")

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> [@Troy McClure SF](#):
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> I will admit I’ve gone from hating to loving a movie- _Mars Attacks!_, to be specific. But I’ve also watched others and had my previous opinions confirmed.

Honestly, I can’t figure out why people don’t like\* Mars Attacks!\* Do you guys not realize it’s a parody? 😕

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/92 "2005-10-26T03:39:39Z")

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> [@Little Bird](#):
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> Honestly, I can’t figure out why people don’t like\* Mars Attacks!\* Do you guys not realize it’s a parody? 😕

Just because something is a parody doesn’t make it good or enjoyable.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/93 "2005-10-26T03:47:36Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Just because something is a parody doesn’t make it good or enjoyable.
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> -Joe

Definitely. \*Mars Attacks! \*is hilarious, but a bit uneven.

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/94 "2005-10-26T06:12:46Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> I feel strangely compelled to list another movie that some people view as genius and genre breaking but just plain annoyed others:
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> **Blair Witch Project**

Oh man. That movie bugged the hell out of me.

I could watch the audio commentary on the DVD though. It’s funny to listen to the directors talk about how they messed with the actors to get the reactions.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/95 "2005-10-26T06:42:48Z")

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> [@Little Bird](#):
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> Honestly, I can’t figure out why people don’t like\* Mars Attacks!\* Do you guys not realize it’s a parody? 😕

I knew it was. In fact, that’s the main reason why I was so disappointed with it. Parodies are supposed to be funny. At best, **Mars Attacks!** had barely enough funny stuff in it for a middling five-minute sketch on SNL. Unfortunately, it was nearly two hours long.

Anyway, if we’re talking stupid movies, I often wondered why my brain didn’t melt and trickle out my ears while I was watching **Con Air**.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/96 "2005-10-26T08:03:42Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> in what may be a controversial offering, I nominate **Million Dollar Baby**.
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> [rant]  
> there were so many weak plot lines in this film… we never know why his daughter refuses to open his letters, what happened in their relationship, or if she is even alive… Clint’s character is a vapid man with little commitment to his friends, and he basically walks out on his closest friend in a selfish escape that really has no explanation… to eat pie in a diner? oh, we should assume he bought the place, puhlease! friggin right-to-die euthanasia bullshit story masquerading as a boxing film… the portrayal of a C1/C2 quad was totally unrealistic, and they should be ashamed for inaccurate medical fact writing… the not-as-good-as-in-Shawshank-Redemption Morgan Freeman narrative, and those damn horse teeth… oh, right, I can run away and eat pie and it will all be better…  
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1. Not knowing about his relationship with his daughter isn’t a weak plot line.
2. Yes, going to the diner was a retreat. Even though he killed the protagonist, he still wasn’t sure it was the right thing to do and was burdened with guilt. Sometimes that can end friendships.
3. I never felt that it was a political movie. It was a personal story that happens to have a controversial element. Again, the movie never says that her death was the best outcome.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/97 "2005-10-26T11:02:07Z")

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> [@Little Bird](#):
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> Honestly, I can’t figure out why people don’t like\* Mars Attacks!\* Do you guys not realize it’s a parody? 😕

How can you not realize that it’s a parody. They practically beat you over the head with it in every scene.

I don’t think it’s a stupid movie, but it’s a _really_ obvious movie.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/98 "2005-10-26T11:44:26Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> How can you not realize that it’s a parody. They practically beat you over the head with it in every scene.

That doesn’t excuse it from not having a plot. Or wasting good actors. Or the ridiculous “Hey, kids, isn’t old people’s music stupid? It’s so stupid it kills Martians! Hah hah hah hah! Here’s an “ironic” Tom Jones song to end with so you can feel even more smugly hip. Now fuck off and buy the toys.”

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/99 "2005-10-26T11:54:30Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> The problem with this sort of thread is it prompts people to respond to defend a movie they like.

MOderator Speaketh: Well, we ought to keep on topic, but a little digression like that is fine. You just need to remember that this is about the arts and entertainment, which means it’s a matter of taste. “Fact” and “truth” only come into play in certain types of discussion, like whether Clark Gable or Jimmy Stewart played the lead in GONE WITH THE WIND. When it’s a matter of taste, something can connect with one person and not with another, and both points of view are legitimate. Therefore discussion must remain polite and well-mannered, as per my post above. Each person’s taste is different, and that’s OK, and discussion about the whys and wherefores of someone else’s taste may give you insights into your own, or into the world, or whatever.

In short, discussions remain polite. (Yes, I said this a few posts earlier, and no, no one has offended since. I’m watching.)

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/100 "2005-10-26T12:01:08Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> I think the thread is veering off its original aim. We’re not talking about _bad_ movies, we’re talking about _stupid_ movies. You may have disliked _Donnie Darko_, but I doubt you’d call it stupid.

No, when I saw it I thought “My god this is stupid!” It may not be stupid in the same way as many of the others, but yes, I found it to be stupid. And dull. And pointless. And an amazing waste of my time.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/101 "2005-10-26T12:12:09Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> No, when I saw it I thought “My god this is stupid!” It may not be stupid in the same way as many of the others, but yes, I found it to be stupid.

Elaborate?

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