# The SDMB Stupid, Stupid Movie Awards **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633 "2005-10-24T05:47:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/142 "2005-10-28T03:43:44Z")
> [@Robot Arm](#): > > Well, there is [one](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_335.html) that springs to mind. > > And I don’t know how much of that is subtext. If you’re looking for more subtext in **Roger Rabbit** , there’s also the fact the “toons” rarely mix with flesh-and-blood humans outside of the studio and live in their own seperate (i.e., segregated) community–Toontown. There are even “toons” who try to break out of this pen-and-ink ghetto by “passing” as regular people. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/143 "2005-10-28T06:54:58Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > …and from the way he talked about the movie, he had a blast writing it and really, really didn’t give a shit about the physics. No. Really? I think the only scientific fact they got correct in the movie is when you drop something it ends up on the floor. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/144 "2005-10-28T07:24:24Z")
> [@Seven](#): > > I had the television on the other night and Face/Off came on. I caught this movie years ago and never thought much about it. This time around I watched a few scenes as I read SDMB and Slashdot. I was blown away by how stupid this movie really is. > > First, the acting sucks. I think in some movies Nick Case can carry himself well enough. That said this is the third of his triple whammy bad movie run (The Rock, Con Air, Face/Off) so by now he’s had a crash course in crap acting - crapting?. How about I just say Nick Cage is hit or miss when it comes to movies. > > This movie is hard to watch **because** of his bad acting/overacting. Half the time he just seems out of place. Travolta pulled off the part of Troy better then Cage did - and Cage was supposed to be Troy. > > Second, when is this movie supposed to take place? The present? The future? Most of the movie seems to take place in the present. The cars, houses, guns; most style seems to be current. Then they throw in the future jail scenes and the medical room of the future complete with lasers that grow ears in a Pyrex dish. Let’s not forget the lasers that heal wounds. Granted they have to create some of these elements to explain how they pull a face off one guy and stick it on another. > > I do like the one line a doctor says about face transplants. He credits the “advances in anti-inflammatories”. Forget about anti-rejection medication. It’s all about inflamation. :smack: > > There’s also the scene where the FBI got a data disk with bomb blueprints on it (or something like that). It’s a zip disk. A ZIP DISK? Even 1990’s _The Adventures of Ford Fairlane_ knew to put data on a CD. But in 1997’s Face/Off, where you can grow ears in cookware, a 100mb zip disk is good enough for all your data needs. > > Third, the super creepy face wipe thing John Travolta likes to do to people. Who does this ever? > > You know, I could go on all night. > > I nominate **Face/Off** for the **Overacting, Sci-Fi movie too lazy to be proper Sci-Fi, SDMB Stupid, Stupid Movie Award**. > > What is your pick for the SDMB Stupid, Stupid Movie Award? Why? The Con[“Put \*\*_down_ \*\*the bunny”]Air scene made my jaw drop!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/145 "2005-10-28T19:06:52Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > If you’re looking for more subtext in **Roger Rabbit** , there’s also the fact the “toons” rarely mix with flesh-and-blood humans outside of the studio and live in their own seperate (i.e., segregated) community–Toontown. There are even “toons” who try to break out of this pen-and-ink ghetto by “passing” as regular people. That’s what I was thinking of - it’s been forever since I saw the film, and I didn’t manage to finish it. Didn’t strike me as a “kiddie movie” at all. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/146 "2005-10-28T19:34:19Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > There are even “toons” who try to break out of this pen-and-ink ghetto by “passing” as regular people. I don’t remember that bit. Was it in the book or the movie? ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/147 "2005-10-28T19:48:55Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > I don’t remember that bit. Was it in the book or the movie? I haven’t read the book but in the movie it turns out that Judge Doom, who was behind the whole plot to build the freeway that would wipe out Toontown, is really a Toon who disguised himself as a human. In addition to the obvious monetary gain, it’s implied that Doom wanted to literally erase Toontown from existence because it would effectively conceal his background once and for all (in other words, Doom was an extremely self-loathing Toon). ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/148 "2005-10-28T19:56:18Z")
> [@Snooooopy](#): > > I saw that on TV this weekend. It was very limp. Never watch the made-for-TV sequel then. I liked ST for the cheese value, but the sequel didn’t even have that to fall back on. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/149 "2005-10-28T19:57:47Z")
> [@MacSpon](#): > > Is there anything good to be said about the film **Dungeons and Dragons**? Well, the thieves maze sequence I rememeber enjoying, and the dragon fight. Too bad I had already seen them in two much better movies, namely \*\*Raiders of the lost Ark \*\* and **Return fo the Jedi.** ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/150 "2005-10-28T20:01:47Z")
> [@Small Clanger](#): > > There is not a single thing that makes any sense in **Alien vs Predator**. Nothing. > > It’s insultingly stupid. I think there’s a posting on this board where someone gave it a proper kicking. Maybe I’ll link to it later. On the bright side, it’s short and fast paced, and decently entertaining. Though it’s hard to tell if I liked it or it was just far better then _the Vagina Monolouges_, which I had been forced to sit through earlier that evening. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/151 "2005-10-28T20:08:16Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > I nominate **The Deep End**. From the very beginning, Someone does Something Stupid. Then it continues, and so on, and so forth. > I vaguely recall the main character dragging some dead body off to a freakin’ shallow area of the lake, and that’s dumb enough in itself if you wish to hide such a thing. Then she realizes that she needs something that is on the body, so she goes back to retrieve it, and…Oh, never mind. It’s too stupid to continue writing about. I tried watching that. One of the few movies I cut off before the end because I just couldn’t take it anyone. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/152 "2005-10-28T20:12:58Z")
> [@Mr. Goob](#): > > _House of 10,000 Corpses_ was both bad and stupid. I watched it to the end waiting for something, anything worthwhile to happen. I like silly slasher flicks but this wasn’t even good at that. > > No redeeming qualities at all. What? You didn’t like the incredibly bizarre stuff at the end with the wierd people in the bunny suits? Or that took the bunny suits? I can’t remember, actually. I did give it some points for the bizarre “WTF” value. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/153 "2005-10-28T20:24:28Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > I tried watching that. One of the few movies I cut off before the end because I just couldn’t take it anyone. Well to be fair, _ **The Deep End** _ was \*about \*people getting sucked into the consequences of doing stupid things; very much in keeping with the tradition of hardcore _film noir_. Not that \*\*\*TDE \*\*\*was _noir_, just sayin; it has a great deal of highly respected precedent in that area. Transpose it from Lake Tahoe (IIRC) to the rain drenched streets of nocturnal Manhattan, and you couldn’t probly get any noirier. (Ever seen _ **Detour** _? If you can’t sit through _ **TDE** _, trust me; _don’t_ rent _ **Detour** _.) ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/154 "2005-10-28T20:27:07Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > You want dumb? How about Superman III and Superman IV: The Quest for Peace? I haven’t seen either since the 1980’s, but they were both pretty stupid. I don’t remember much of Superman III, other then the fact the borg scene at the end scared me as a kid. Superman IV is not worth watching even while drunk. Or High. Or Drunk high. It just pisses in the face of fans of the first two movies. And now that I think of it, Superman does act like a big Dick in the film. “I’m taking away all your nukes, wether you want me to or not!” Good idea supes, because unilateral action againest the first world is always a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/155 "2005-10-28T23:04:01Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Never watch the made-for-TV sequel then. I liked ST for the cheese value, but the sequel didn’t even have that to fall back on. It did have T&A, though… ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/156 "2005-10-28T23:57:32Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I haven’t read the book but in the movie it turns out that Judge Doom, who was behind the whole plot to build the freeway that would wipe out Toontown, is really a Toon who disguised himself as a human. In addition to the obvious monetary gain, it’s implied that Doom wanted to literally erase Toontown from existence because it would effectively conceal his background once and for all (in other words, Doom was an extremely self-loathing Toon). Ah. That wasn’t my interpretation of his motives, so I didn’t think about him when I read that. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/157 "2005-10-29T00:02:56Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > While I respect Doors’s opinion, you’ll find if you look further afield that it does not necessarily represent the universal consensus regarding this film. It does, however, represent the majority opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/158 "2005-10-29T04:22:44Z")
I understand that the movie **Stargate** has gone on to inspire a fairly well-regarded TV show, the dumbness level of which I am unable to comment on as I have never seen any episodes. However, it’s certainly fair to say that the original film was very, very stupid indeed. It achieves extreme stupidity almost immediately by building its central premise around Von Daniken’s Ancient Astronauts theory, and then amazingly proceeds to get even stupider. Although the plot centers around a mysterious artifact presumed to have come from outer space, it takes decades before anyone suspects that the constellation-resembling inscriptions around its perimeter might be intended to represent constellations. Once activated, the gadget creates a gateway to another planet. At this point, one of two scenarios would seem to be likely: 1. Since the stargate has been inactive for thousands of years, the civilization that created it is probably deader than disco by now, and therefore presents no danger. But, if not, then: 2. The civilization clearly already had technology that vastly outstripped ours when the stargate was created, and has now had several dozen centuries to advance even further. In either case, the safest and most prudent course of action is obviously to send a dozen heavily armed soldiers through the gate, toting a portable nuclear bomb. Fortunately, however, the strike team has an infallible escape option, as established by a conversation between the team commander and the mop-headed archaeologist before going through the gate (I’m paraphrasing here): COMMANDER: So you’re sure you’ll be able to send us back? ARCHAEOLOGIST: Oh, absolutely. No question about it. COMMANDER: You’re completely certain? ARCHAEOLOGIST: Yes. I can send us back, guaranteed. (LATER) COMMANDER: The mission is screwed! Send us back! ARCHAEOLOGIST: What? …Oh, you were asking if I could send us back from _here!_ I’m sorry, I thought you were talking about something else. Ah, well then I guess when I said “yes” all those times I should have actually said “no.” COMMANDER: (SETS ARCHAEOLOGIST ON FIRE)\* \*Note: I may have just imagined this part. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/159 "2005-10-29T04:38:13Z")
Stargate - good catch. I forgot about that one. Did you notice that the bad guys’ most fearsome weapon is a stick that you point at someone, then about 15 seconds later it fires and kills the victim. Totally useless against somebody who takes any kind of evasive action like say for instance, stepping to one side. Luckily, though, nobody ever does. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/160 "2005-10-29T05:24:31Z")
\*\*Final Destination. \*\* For those who haven’t seen it, a bunch of teenagers are going on a plane to paris. One of them has a vision of their horrible, firely death and manages to get him and a couple other students kicked off the plane. While they’re bawling him out for ruining their trip, the plane explodes not long after takeoff. This part actually did freak me out when I saw it. Too bad it didn’t end there. Well, it turns out that they were supposed to die, and having thwarted Deaths design, Death is hunting them down one by one. This is when the movie goes from being scary and promising to downright idiotic. Okay, a rather dubious premise. I would think that if death had a plan for you, you would not be able to escape it. What makes it worse is that the execution is done in the most stupid way possible. Apparently death cannot stop them from getting off the plane, and doesn’t even bother trying to kill them until a year or so has passed. And then Death has to go in a certain order and wait at least a couple hours before attempts. And even more baffling, Death is unable to kill them simply by stopping their hearts, or having them stumble and break open their skulls on the pavement, or have a rock fall from the sky and smush them. No. Death apparently must rely on a series of needlessy complex rube goldberg devices. So the message of the movie is: It’s more dangerous to piss off the mafia then to piss off Death. The mafia will shoot you in the eye or put a bomb in your car or ambush you at a tollbooth. Death, on the other hand, is singularly incapable of cutting your break lines. I actually walked out of the movie the first time I saw it because I felt it was so damn stupid. This was after I pissed off my sister, who was watching as well, by pointing this all out. It doesn’t help that this is basically your average collection of teenage stereotypes who deserve to die anyway, so you feel no sympathy for them at all. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633/161 "2005-10-29T10:39:29Z")
I would agree with **Stargate** if I followed the story but I was far too busy drooling over Mili Avital to bother. She looked damn hot in that movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-stupid-stupid-movie-awards/327633.md?page=9)