# The SDMB World Poker Tour on Pokertropolis......Rude and Grim when you go All-In

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 1, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295 "2005-06-01T00:29:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aholibah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Aholibah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aholibah)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/281 "2005-07-18T19:58:21Z")

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Thanks for the attagirls, guys. And **Yeti** , thanks for stating the payout – when I finished up at almost 1 o’clock this morning, I was too bleary-eyed to do anything but stumble off to bed, so I forgot to check and see just how much I got for that finish.

> [@Capn](#):
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> Those damn small pairs’ll get ya every time.

Actually, it was rather a fitting ending for me. The very first hand I was dealt in that tournament was 44, and the flop came 454. By keeping the bets small I was able to string a bunch of callers along all the way to the showdown, so I managed to make a bit of a profit on my four of a kind.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/282 "2005-07-19T18:19:11Z")

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**Capn** , I pretty much agree with you about arrogant Josh, cool Al and “snake eyes” Greg. I also like rooting for Harrington, Negranau, Hanson…and other gracious winners. I saw the WSOP 2004 Hold’em final table with Raymer narrating the more definitive hands and I thought he was very smart and calculating. Even the explanation why he uses “those” glasses made sense to me. Players just couldn’t gage any reaction from Raymer and since they were so annoying to the other players, alot of them STOPPED looking his way at all. 🆒

Another player I’m rooting for from here on out is Annie Duke. She dumped the women’s table for the 2004 WSOP Omaha event (playing against the “big boys”) and won her first bracelet in that event. The women’s Hold’em event was pretty interesting to watch; the betting was fast and furious (it was limit betting though) and the final four players were all Vietnamese born ladies…all of them cute, most of them sassy to boot. I forgot the name of the one that won, but she couldn’t carry Annie’s jock if she had one to carry.

If you want to see who finished this year…[WSOP website. (Warning: Front page spoiler)](http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/)

If you rather would find out on TV…[ESPN TV Schedule (No spoilers)](http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/broadcast.asp)

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**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/283 "2005-07-19T19:13:10Z")

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**Yeti** I’m an Annie Duke fan too. I’m also a Lederer fan (guy seems to always get horrible beats). Glad to see we’re on the same side.

I’m definitely trying to avoid the spoilers and I’ll be tuned in to ESPN tonight.

Oh yeah, the bad news…I’m out for Thursday. I’ll be at a meeting out of town. Don’t have too much fun without me.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/284 "2005-07-20T21:12:25Z")

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[QUOTE=CapnPittOh yeah, the bad news…I’m out for Thursday. I’ll be at a meeting out of town. Don’t have too much fun without me.[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding? How can we have any fun when we’re always rude and grim? 😉

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/285 "2005-07-21T05:33:11Z")

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Woot.

Got 6th place (out of 297) in the .99 tournament for a whopping $17.64!

**Gangster** was egging me on; thanks for the words of encouragment.

I also got 9th place (out of 35) simultaneously on the Charity Tournament…alas, 4 spots out of the money.

Norman Chad…Fear my Rude and Grim Play!

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/286 "2005-07-21T11:40:47Z")

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It looks like, barring a miracle, I’m out of the game tonight. Shit with work is falling too heavy and I’m going to be busy working or busy passing out from exhaustion when 10pm rolls around.

Good luck all.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/287 "2005-07-21T14:48:28Z")

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**Yeticus** didn’t mention he was playing both tournaments at the same time, one was limit and the other no-limit, so it was quite an accomplishment. Good job Yeti! I would’ve finished better except: a) I got trapped in a bad way; and 2) with a workable stack I had to go help a firend with his car…

But the other news is, I think I am in tonight, if **xrayvision** gets my email in time.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/288 "2005-07-21T21:38:25Z")

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Hope you make it OK, **G O**. I’ll be there, poised to either dominate or donate…I have no middle ground.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/289 "2005-07-21T22:38:34Z")

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Sorry guys, I won’t be able to make it. Some other pressing business has come up (a last minute date).

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/290 "2005-07-21T23:01:01Z")

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I’ll try to be there. And when I say that, I mean that I won’t send my bot.

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**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/291 "2005-07-22T03:39:14Z")

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1 Duck  
2 Miss Take  
3 Nanook  
4 Yeti  
5 Dag Otto  
6 Aholibah  
7 Xray

Duck is a f’ker. That is all.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/292 "2005-07-22T03:46:18Z")

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> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> Hope you make it OK, **G O**. I’ll be there, poised to either dominate or donate…I have no middle ground.

Well, take a guess 😃

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/293 "2005-07-22T03:52:38Z")

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And a double to say the **MissTake** played very well. She and **Aholibah** are doing well in the series.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/294 "2005-07-22T06:39:02Z")

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> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> And a double to say the **MissTake** played very well. She and **Aholibah** are doing well in the series.

I wish they could have a pink nametag and a pic that pops up like the rest of the bombshells…I love being beaten down (on a slight occasion) by hot poker mamas! 😛

**MissTake** had the honors tonight.

And Duck was in full suck out glory…that MF’r.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/295 "2005-07-22T13:18:45Z")

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> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> And a double to say the **MissTake** played very well. She and **Aholibah** are doing well in the series.

Why thank you, **Rat**.

Now if I could just learn to bet, maybe I’d stand a fighting chance.  
However, I still feel I should just change my name to Origami.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/296 "2005-07-22T14:48:29Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> Now if I could just learn to bet, maybe I’d stand a fighting chance.

No reason to take my advice, but…

The big difference between Limit and No Limit poker is that in limit the pot odds are somewhat easier to figure because of the size of the bets. That gives you few options when you want someone to either bet or fold. They may bet a hand that is behind simply because of the odds make it the right move.

That changes in NL. The size of your bet dictates the odds. During your last hand last night, you were making small bets that Duke could easily call. A large bet, maybe pot sized on the flop would have made him fold. Your small bets looked like you wanted him to call. I don’t remember the cards of that last hand, but if he drew out on you, your small bets let it happen.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/297 "2005-07-22T14:57:12Z")

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I’ll go back and see what I had the last few hands… Seems like the last hand I had a set from early on, not sure.

I do remember sucking an easy flush during heads-up play, then the gallery started coaxing Missy into betting it up to keep me from getting cheap cards. Trouble was, I was getting some really good cards and her betting into me was not doing her any good. That’s poker 🙂

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/298 "2005-07-22T15:12:58Z")

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My last had was a QJ suited (I believe - may have been a Q10). Flop didn’t do much, Ratso-boy won with a pair of A’s (IIRC).

My family jokes that I am a super spendthrift. Seriously. If it ain’t cheap, it don’t get bought. While I consciously recognize I play off a frickin’ DIME, I see 500 point antes and freak. I’m trying to get over it, but I tell you when I double anted last night I was sweatin’.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/299 "2005-07-22T17:17:54Z")

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oops.

thursday… **thursday**.

ok i got it for sure now.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/300 "2005-07-22T17:38:56Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> My last had was a QJ suited (I believe - may have been a Q10). Flop didn’t do much, Ratso-boy won with a pair of A’s (IIRC).
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> My family jokes that I am a super spendthrift. Seriously. If it ain’t cheap, it don’t get bought. While I consciously recognize I play off a frickin’ DIME, I see 500 point antes and freak. I’m trying to get over it, but I tell you when I double anted last night I was sweatin’.

Yeah, you had me beat on the last hand with a Q until the river. I had ATo and called when you went all in. All of the action was pre-flop, so I was just along for the ride at that point.

The set was a couple hands earlier, looks like that was the hand that crippled you. But even then I had A8o, still a decent hand heads-up. The flop was 828, you would have been hard pressed to scare me off of that. The only other hand you lost a good stack was to my pair of jacks that I had since the flop.

It’s worth noting that you did beat me out of a $800, $1K and a $1800 pot all during heads-up, (and were in the lead for a while!) so don’t be too hard on your self. Just get back in there next week and give it another go.

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