# The SDMB World Poker Tour on Pokertropolis......Rude and Grim when you go All-In **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 1, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295 "2005-06-01T00:29:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/321 "2005-07-29T04:11:28Z")
1. OMD 2. **DoR!** 3. GO 4. Nesta 5. Nanook 6. Yeti 7. Kyy 8. Aholibah 9. MissTake 10. X ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/322 "2005-07-29T14:30:34Z")
Wait a minute. Wait just a cotton-pickin’ moment. You mean to tell me that you guys: a. had ten people b. knocked the Black Widow and her sidekick out early c. gave **Yeti** a bit of a comeuppance d. didn’t let Nanook get bossy with his stack e. and **OMD** WON??? I believe I just missed the best Doper poker game EVAR!!!111!! ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/323 "2005-07-29T14:41:04Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > Wait a minute. Wait just a cotton-pickin’ moment. You mean to tell me that you guys: > > a. had ten people > b. knocked the Black Widow and her sidekick out early > c. gave **Yeti** a bit of a comeuppance > d. didn’t let Nanook get bossy with his stack > e. and **OMD** WON??? > > I believe I just missed the best Doper poker game EVAR!!!111!! a. Yep! b. Yep!! c. Yep!!!11111OMG! d. He tried, last I heard he was moaning something like, “Can you beat a J? Duck, you f’r!” e. Yep, he had a massive stack towards the end. Squashed us like so many bugs. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/324 "2005-07-29T15:09:00Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > b. knocked the Black Widow and her sidekick out early :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/325 "2005-07-29T15:10:16Z")
Sorry **MissT** , I couldn’t think of another flashy name. I apolgize for the sidekick remark. What’s your poker persona? ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/326 "2005-07-29T16:20:55Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > Sorry **MissT** , I couldn’t think of another flashy name. I apolgize for the sidekick remark. What’s your poker persona? **The Poker Medusa**. One look in her eyes will draw you into a deadly stone cold bluff. **The Siren**. Her sweet table demeanor enchants men, bringing them ever nearer to doom. **Wonder Woman**. Beware the lasso of truth (and shiny gold push-up halter top) if you’re going to try and bluff her. And yeah **Capn** I’m as shocked as you that I could actually play well and take the game against some very strong competition, but keep it quiet. I don’t want **Gangster Octopus** to realize I’m a fraud quite yet. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/327 "2005-07-29T16:26:57Z")
Oh, I’m a fraud also, so there is nothing to worry about. When you called me with your pocket fives, considering the community cards, that was a damn good call, not the sign of a fraud. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/328 "2005-07-29T16:55:22Z")
**OMD** what I meant to say was congrats. It’s been a long time since you’ve gotten any cards whatsoever. I’m leaning toward calling **MissTake** the Poker Siren. I like it a lot. ---
**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/329 "2005-07-29T17:27:36Z")
Congats to **Only Mostly Dead** for coming in first place last night at a full table! This quarter’s rankings so far: 1. Duke of Rat 78.17% 2. Yeticus Rex 70.29% 3. Only Mostly Dead 68.1% 4. Nanook of the North Shore 62.88% 5. Aholibah 53.5% 6. Miss Take 50.31% 7. x-ray vision 10.54% (stop laughing!) ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/330 "2005-07-29T17:34:40Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > Oh, I’m a fraud also, so there is nothing to worry about. When you called me with your pocket fives, considering the community cards, that was a damn good call, not the sign of a fraud. Damn good only because I was reckless enough to believe you didn’t have a third J to match the two from the flop. That could have easily gone the other way. I just looked at the hand history. 5s were lower than any table cards (the pair J, 7 on the flop, 9 turn) until the river 4, by which time we were both already committed to see it to the end. I played dangerously, and got a break. Total hack 😃 In retrospect, I’m appalled that I went all in by the turn on pair 5. (Game 1004221708 if you want to look it up) ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/331 "2005-07-29T17:46:28Z")
Hey, what about **Duke** ’s comeuppance?!?! Eh, I guess that’ll be next week. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/332 "2005-07-29T18:18:13Z")
> [@Yeticus Rex](#): > > Hey, what about **Duke** ’s comeuppance?!?! > > Eh, I guess that’ll be next week. Heh, I was way happy to eek out 2nd place. $.35 ain’t nothing to sneeze at, pal! Stretching my lead over the pack is just gravy, baybee!! And , and, and I even got to live up to MY poker persona 😃 You will tremble at the mention of my name ! The **Duck of Death** …errr **Suck**! I wonder if **Nanook** has recovered yet?? Apoplexy is a serious condition. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/333 "2005-07-29T19:54:37Z")
A freaking full house. On the river. Bastard. River sucking mf’ing bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/334 "2005-07-29T20:02:38Z")
> [@Only Mostly Dead](#): > > Damn good only because I was reckless enough to believe you didn’t have a third J to match the two from the flop. That could have easily gone the other way. I just looked at the hand history. 5s were lower than any table cards (the pair J, 7 on the flop, 9 turn) until the river 4, by which time we were both already committed to see it to the end. I played dangerously, and got a break. Total hack 😃 In retrospect, I’m appalled that I went all in by the turn on pair 5. > > (Game 1004221708 if you want to look it up) I guess I deserved after I slow-played those four jacks. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/335 "2005-07-30T00:19:20Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > I wonder if **Nanook** has recovered yet?? Apoplexy is a serious condition. > [@Nanook](#): > > A freaking full house. On the river. Bastard. River sucking mf’ing bastard. It would appear not 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aholibah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Aholibah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aholibah)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/336 "2005-08-03T03:10:41Z")
So, in the news tonight: PartyPoker is beta-testing shootout tournaments, as of this past weekend. I really like the format, so I’ve played in five of them. First two, went out in the first round on the bubble – v. frustrating. Second two, made it into the second round and crapped out, at least making my buy-in back with a little extra. And I DO mean _a little_. Fifth one…I win. The whole fucking shooting match, boys (and **Miss** ). $371 in profit, baybeeeeeeee. FEAR THE **BLACK WIDOW**. “All shall see me, and _DESPAIR_.” ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2005, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/337 "2005-08-03T03:51:53Z")
Awesome. Simply awesome. I sit in fear of the BW! You have a linky to what exactly a shootout tournament is? ---
**Author:** ![Aholibah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Aholibah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aholibah)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2005, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/338 "2005-08-03T04:32:07Z")
Basically, a shootout works like a SNG for the first few rounds, then like a regular MTT for the last round. To advance from the first round you have to finish in the top three of your ten-player table for that round. Same for the second and the third rounds. Then the fourth round is played out like a MTT. The number of finishers who qualify for money in the final round depends on how many entered. But finishing each round in the top three at least gets you some money for that round. So more people get paid off, but each person who gets paid gets less money than could be expected in a regular MTT. The basics for PartyPoker’s shootouts can be found [here](http://www.partypoker.com/games/tournaments/shootout.html). There were about 1670 players entered in the tournament I won (which had a $5 buy-in), and you can use the calculator at the link above to see what the structure and payouts looked like for each round. (I finished second at my table in each of the first three rounds.) ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/339 "2005-08-03T16:29:11Z")
> [@Aholibah](#): > > So more people get paid off, but each person who gets paid gets less money than could be expected in a regular MTT. The basics for PartyPoker’s shootouts can be found [here](http://www.partypoker.com/games/tournaments/shootout.html). > > There were about 1670 players entered in the tournament I won (which had a $5 buy-in), and you can use the calculator at the link above to see what the structure and payouts looked like for each round. (I finished second at my table in each of the first three rounds.) I’m happy you won, Aholibah, but… A tournament with a $8,350 prize pool, and the winner gets $371. So something like 50% of the money is paid in the first round, 25% in the second, 15% in the third, and only 10% in the final round. I like the idea of having the top three of each table advance, but I don’t think that making it past the first table merits a payout of 50% of the prize pool. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295/340 "2005-08-03T16:54:06Z")
Does this format promote reckless play, especially in the first round? Do tournaments really need to be shorter? I figure you get more play time for your money, but if you’re looking at is getting paid a per hour wage, I suppose faster would be better. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-world-poker-tour-on-pokertropolis-rude-and-grim-when-you-go-all-in/306295.md?page=18)