# The Second Annual Wendell Wagner U.K. Tour Dopefest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 5, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175 "2004-09-05T03:25:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/1 "2004-09-05T03:25:18Z")

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Would any British dopers like to get together while I’m in the U.K. September 12th to 24th? Last year when I was there we did this at a pub in London. I’ll be in Oxford mostly. I could do this most easily in the afternoon Sunday, September 19th. Sorry to be trying to organize this so late, but I’ve had computer problems and haven’t been able to get on the SDMB for over a week.

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**Author:** ![confessorknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@confessorknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confessorknight)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/2 "2004-09-05T12:47:03Z")

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Well I missed your visit last time so i’ll try and make it. In the meantime i’ll post a link to his thread on the [NAD’s](http://p086.ezboard.com/bnads) board as most of the Londopers spend more time there.

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**Author:** ![confessorknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@confessorknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confessorknight)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/3 "2004-09-05T12:54:43Z")

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Sorry - when you say that you’ll be in Oxford _mostly_ will you be down to London at all or is it not in your plans?

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/4 "2004-09-05T14:22:33Z")

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I can come down to London at any time. That’s what I did last year. Just give me a time and a date and I’ll take the coach to London.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/5 "2004-09-05T16:01:01Z")

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Whats up Wendell? I should be about the 19th. As Confessor says, check the NADS board from tomorrow, we can get a team together i’m sure.

The Ship where we went last time doesn’t open on a Sunday anymore, but I have a plan…

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/6 "2004-09-05T16:43:12Z")

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I think I’m free as well. Any excuse for a pissup, after all.

I do get a tad worried when Paul say he “has a plan” though…

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/7 "2004-09-05T20:25:47Z")

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> [@paulberserker](#):
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> The Ship where we went last time doesn’t open on a Sunday anymore, but I have a plan…

But is it a cunning plan?

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**Author:** ![seosamh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@seosamh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seosamh)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/8 "2004-09-05T21:26:29Z")

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I am a relatively new Doper but I may just pop along. God knows, I have bugger-all else to do with my time…

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2004, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/9 "2004-09-06T11:27:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The Ship where we went last time doesn’t open on a Sunday anymore, but I have a plan…

**paul’s** plans rule.

_ **Berserker’s Eleven** _

_SCENE: PRINCESS LOUISE PUB, HOLBORN_

**Garius** (_To the Barman_): I’ll have a…

**Berserker** (_interrupting_): …Pint of Kronenbourg, and make mine a Stella.

**Garius** : So You’re out again?

**Berserker:** Yeah. My debt to society has been paid in full.

**Garius** : How was it?

**Berserker:** Well the food was terrible, but at least the rent was cheap. I’ve got a job planned - are you in?

**Garius** : What are you - allergic to small talk? Whatever happened to the beautiful art of conversation in this country?

**Berserker:** It died when they put a 150 character cap on text messages. You want to hear about the job?

**Garius** : No. I’m out. I’m clean paully, i’ve gone straight, I’ve got a job - a real one. One that doesn’t result in the Old Bill knocking on my door at 3 O’Clock in the morning and asking to go through my girlfriend’s underwear draw.

**Berserker:** So thats what you call what you were doing back there - teaching straightdopers to play poker is a job? Does it pay well?

**Garius** : Its enough to pay my bar tab.

**Berserker:** This’ll pay your bar tab for life.

**Garius** : One question: You’ve only just got out of Joliet - why are you doing this?

**Berserker** : Because being a thief is ingrained on me at a genetic level. On top of that i had a bad childhood which failed to teach me the difference between right and wrong and society, which places too much emphasis on retribution rather than rehibilitation in its prison system, has failed to turn me from my evil ways.

**Garius** : Bullshit.

**Berserker** : Fine. Its because the Ship is closed. You in or out?

**Garius** (_pauses_): What’s the target?

**Berserker:** Three targets. Three banks.

**Garius** : Banks?! Are you crazy?! What is this 1975?! No one robs banks anymore. When was the last time anyone successfully ripped off a bank?

**Berserker:** November 1991. I checked. Which is why they won’t be expecting it and, more importantly, is why we are going to get away with it. Us and 8 other guys.

**Garius** : 11. you’ll need 11 in total.

**Berserker:** What?

**Garius:** 11.

**Berserker:** I figured me, you, **kferr, tir, gyrate, tony, sam, confessor, angua** and a magician. What am i missing?

**Garius:** Well **Ianzin** would be good for your magician, but **Tir’s** gone so you’ll need another frightener and you’re missing a patsy.

**Berserker:** No shit - **Tir’s** gone?! What happened?!

**Garius:** Fell in love. Moved to Ireland. How about **Mad\_Matt**?

**Berserker:** The southend bruiser? Yeah, he could do it. What about the patsy?

**Garius:** No idea.

**Berserker:** We need someone trusting…

**Garius:** Someone who suspects nothing…

**Berserker / Garius** (_together_): An American!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2004, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/10 "2004-09-06T11:49:15Z")

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And if anyone needed any further incentive to come to a Londope, the above should be all the proof one needs. They rock (excuse me, “rawk”).

I didn’t know Paul had been to Illinois?

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**Author:** ![confessorknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@confessorknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/confessorknight)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2004, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/11 "2004-09-06T11:54:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I didn’t know Paul had been to Illinois?

**paul** gets around - for he is people what knows people.

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**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2004, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/12 "2004-09-06T11:56:56Z")

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I’m bad, i’m International.

I’m impressed Gary could pull himself away from City of Heroes long enough to write that out. And **seosamh** , you’re welcome to join in the ‘fun’. Always good to have new blood around. Heh. Blau!

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2004, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/13 "2004-09-06T11:57:36Z")

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I’ll be around on the 19th. Might be very hungover, but I’ll be around.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2004, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/14 "2004-09-06T12:06:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I’m impressed Gary could pull himself away from City of Heroes long enough to write that out.

Actually this weekend i’ve been mostly playing the rather disappointing _James Bond: Everything or Nothing_ which seems to think that “challenging gameplay” can be best achieved by just not giving the player enough ammunition.

**Q** : For this mission, 007, we will be giving you the latest Thermo-Imaging goggles.

**007** : Wonderful Q, but what would be really useful is more than 10 bullets.

**Q** : Don’t be silly 007…

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**Author:** ![curly\_chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@curly\_chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curly_chick)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2004, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/15 "2004-09-06T12:37:48Z")

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**Garius** , that’s the most ill-assorted and motley crew ever assembled for a bank job. It’s got Ealing comedy stamped all over it. 😛  
I luv it!!

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/16 "2004-09-09T13:25:42Z")

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So is somebody going to suggest a place and a time for this Dopefest?

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/17 "2004-09-09T17:54:37Z")

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Well in the pub yesterday the [b[berserker\*\* and me agreed that the _Princess Louise_ would probably do us.

People happy with that?

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/18 "2004-09-10T03:23:23Z")

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Address (and directions)? Is the 19th O.K. with people? What time?

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/19 "2004-09-10T08:53:53Z")

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> [@garius](#):
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> Well in the pub yesterday the [b[berserker\*\* and me agreed that the _Princess Louise_ would probably do us.
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> People happy with that?

Yup, fine by me.

You know, **Garius** , you’re really rather predictable. **Bonzer** and I guessed last night that you’d probably choose the _Princess Louise_. 😉

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-annual-wendell-wagner-u-k-tour-dopefest/263175/20 "2004-09-10T08:55:59Z")

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I should add, we guessed _before_ either of us had seen your post. 😛

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