# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/361 "2012-10-17T02:18:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He did it! He did it! He said “Cite”? I heard him, he said it!

Obama said ‘read the transcript’ – so, close… but not specifically “cite”.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/362 "2012-10-17T02:19:14Z")

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There was once a time where candidates tried to avoid false claims. Misleading: sure they would do that. But they wouldn’t make shit up.

> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> This will be the right-wing narrative. Bias.

This will be the right-wing narrative. Whining. 🙂

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/363 "2012-10-17T02:19:17Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Obama looks like he’s about to send drones into Romney’s ass.

This got a legitimate, out-loud cackle out of me.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/364 "2012-10-17T02:19:36Z")

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Candy is awesome. You could tell she was afraid but that didn’t stop her!

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/365 "2012-10-17T02:20:05Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Romney is in the weeds.

I believe the 0.001% call it “in the rough”

“in the weeds” implies details and we all know Romney is allergic to details.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/366 "2012-10-17T02:20:28Z")

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Automatic weapons out of the hands of criminals?? Bullshit. That is already illegal.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/367 "2012-10-17T02:21:02Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> “I won’t give illegals driver’s licenses”. Maybe you’ve forgotten you’re not a state governor any more.

He is channelling rotten people like Jan Brewer here in Arizona, I know several good immigrant students over here that have applied for permits to stay thanks to the new “dream act lite” rules and if they graduated from high school they can finally get jobs, or continue their education, except that because of the distances having a car is many times needed and people like Brewer think that they are doing a great job by making troglodytes happy for sticking it to the powerless.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/368 "2012-10-17T02:21:41Z")

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OMG he said automatic weapons are illegal without specifying _fully automatic_. The gun nerds are going to rip him a new one! Right?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/369 "2012-10-17T02:21:57Z")

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Two parent families prevent gun violence? Whaaa?

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/370 "2012-10-17T02:22:01Z")

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Wait a minute, when did this become about marriage and children? Hah, Fast & Furious - DRINK!

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/371 "2012-10-17T02:22:03Z")

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Mitt says that before you have kids you should get married.  
Whoa…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/372 "2012-10-17T02:22:09Z")

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Romney now trying to play the “Fast and Furious” card.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/373 "2012-10-17T02:22:13Z")

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I wish he’d sidestepped the AWB thing…gun control is NOT a winning issue for Democrats and he’s been pretty good in his first admin about not touching that petroleum-byproduct baby.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/374 "2012-10-17T02:22:20Z")

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Romney: We’re gonna solve gun violence by marrying up all those poor folks.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/375 "2012-10-17T02:22:24Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> Automatic weapons out of the hands of criminals?? Bullshit. That is already illegal.

He stumbled a bit there, so I think that he knew he mis-spoke.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/376 "2012-10-17T02:22:31Z")

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“Kids” getting married before having kids helps gun violence? WTF are you talking about, Mittens?

I don’t see Obama’s answer as anti-gun, but I’m not a paranoid, cammo-wearing, bullet hoarding gun nut. I do wish we could TALK about guns in a rational way, but that’s another thread.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/377 "2012-10-17T02:22:47Z")

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“Get assault weapons out for the hands of the mentally ill.”

You mean the Tea Party?

OMIGOD! Promoting two parent families in the middle of a gun control convo??

Yeah, the son of a single mom could never amount to anything.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/378 "2012-10-17T02:22:48Z")

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My faith in the skill of Obama and his team in correcting their mistakes has so far been vindicated tonight.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/379 "2012-10-17T02:23:09Z")

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Crowley: “Governor, would you mind actually answering the question?”

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/380 "2012-10-17T02:23:14Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Wait a minute, when did this become about marriage and children? Hah, Fast & Furious - DRINK!

And he gets slapped back into the track by the moderator.

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