# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/381 "2012-10-17T02:23:18Z")

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WTF? What question caused Mitt to start in about people need to be married to have babies… Does he know how babies are made? What does that have to do with AK47s and Drug Lords?

Clearly, Mitt v 2.9 is starting to loose his memory address mapping and is pulling randome shit from no where…

Moderator reminds Romney of original question… “why have you changed your mind?”… oh… .flip flop accusal from moderator!

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/382 "2012-10-17T02:23:23Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> “Kids” getting married before having kids helps gun violence? WTF are you talking about, Mittens?

A reduction in shotgun weddings?

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/383 "2012-10-17T02:23:29Z")

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It’s interesting that sometimes Mitt’s insta-ratings (on CNN) are pretty good - but then he just keeps talking and they tank. They were just pretty good on the gun control question, then plummeted when he went off on a rant about “Fast and Furious”.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/384 "2012-10-17T02:23:31Z")

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Maybe it could be a one stop “Gun’n’marriage License” counter - 50% off if you get them both at the same time.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/385 "2012-10-17T02:23:33Z")

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Thing is, I think you can make a good argument against the Assault Weapons Ban. I don’t think Romney has a chance of pulling it off.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/386 "2012-10-17T02:23:46Z")

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Oooo! Called out. “You supported an assault weapon ban as governor”.

Oh, I voted for it because everyone agreed on it!

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/387 "2012-10-17T02:23:55Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> “Kids” getting married before having kids helps gun violence? WTF are you talking about, Mittens?

I think he’s trying to evoke inner city violence and gangs, welfare queens, and such. If so, kinda racist-like, now that I think about it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/388 "2012-10-17T02:24:14Z")

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Obama: “Romney was for an AWB before he was against it.”

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**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/389 "2012-10-17T02:24:28Z")

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Mitt’s eyes look like he’s been doing bong hits. He looked that way during the first debate as well, but I attributed that to the train that interfered with his beauty sleep.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/390 "2012-10-17T02:24:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Obama: “Romney was for an AWB before he was against it.”

He’s been Kerryed. That’s gotta sting.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/391 "2012-10-17T02:25:20Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Oooo! Called out. “You supported an assault weapon ban as governor”.
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> Oh, I voted for it because everyone agreed on it!

Romney might have well prefaced his response with “What had happened was…”

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/392 "2012-10-17T02:25:34Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> This will be the right-wing narrative. Bias.

And it would be absolutely correct. Candy Crowley couldn’t do more for Obama without waving pom-poms. Anyone seriously disagree? Anytime Romney talks, she interrogates him. Anytime Obama stands up, she lets him interrupt.

It’s the worst I’ve ever seen. Right now she cut Romney off for talking about fast and furious in response to gun control but is letting Obama prattle on about inner city school funding in response to gun control.

ETA: She finally cuts him off, but let’s him keep talking..

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**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/393 "2012-10-17T02:25:52Z")

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Yeah Mitt, what about the anti-gun legislation you signed…

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/394 "2012-10-17T02:25:58Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> OMG he said automatic weapons are illegal without specifying _fully automatic_. The gun nerds are going to rip him a new one! Right?

I think the gun nerds realize that in terms of support for the right to keep and bear arms, there’s no contest between Obama and Romney. They’ll hold their nose and vote for Romney.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/395 "2012-10-17T02:26:16Z")

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Barak is gonna get some tonight when he gets home. He’s earned it.  
Yay! Promoting community colleges!

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/396 "2012-10-17T02:26:27Z")

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**jtgain** : Go for that. Good luck.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/397 "2012-10-17T02:26:30Z")

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Barack, stop, you’ve made your point. Really.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/398 "2012-10-17T02:26:37Z")

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Romney being asked about outsourcing? This should be good.

“Lots of manufacturing jobs have gone to China. I sent them there.”

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/399 "2012-10-17T02:26:39Z")

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Outsourcing.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/400 "2012-10-17T02:26:46Z")

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Obama’s ratings are luke-warm now that he’s on talking points - and now they just tanked now that he’s pulling a Romney and talking over the moderator.

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