# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/401 "2012-10-17T02:27:07Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I think the gun nerds realize that in terms of support for the right to keep and bear arms, there’s no contest between Obama and Romney. They’ll hold their nose and vote for Obama. Did you mean that? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/402 "2012-10-17T02:27:29Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > OMG he said automatic weapons are illegal without specifying _fully automatic_. The gun nerds are going to rip him a new one! Right? And for the record, full-autos aren’t precisely “illegal” either, but they are very rare and expensive and _heavily_ restricited. They (legally-owned ones) are also virtually never used in crime. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/403 "2012-10-17T02:27:35Z")
Sit down, Barry. Shut up, Barry. Let him talk and thank Jesus, Barry. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/404 "2012-10-17T02:27:35Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > A reduction in shotgun weddings? LOL. Oh, the irony–BAIN man is gonna make American business more attractive for investment? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/405 "2012-10-17T02:27:55Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > And it would be absolutely correct. Candy Crowley couldn’t do more for Obama without waving pom-poms. Anyone seriously disagree? Anytime Romney talks, she interrogates him. Anytime Obama stands up, she lets him interrupt. > > It’s the worst I’ve ever seen. Right now she cut Romney off for talking about fast and furious in response to gun control but is letting Obama prattle on about inner city school funding in response to gun control. > > ETA: She finally cuts him off, but let’s him keep talking.. Romney has had plenty of chances tonight, and he’s blown 'em. Obama has pounced and been on point. In the first debate, Romney was on and Obama wasn’t. Romney’s not doing terrible, by any means, but (IMO) Obama’s crushing him, and it’s not because of Candy Crowley. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/406 "2012-10-17T02:28:12Z")
Romney: Exporting jobs to China. And I helped! “Trickle down Government.” Drink! Maybe if I drink enough, I’ll understand what the hell that even means. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/407 "2012-10-17T02:28:13Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Maybe it could be a one stop “Gun’n’marriage License” counter - 50% off if you get them both at the same time. That will create jobs big time. They can sell them at Walmart. Walmart can add wedding chapels. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/408 "2012-10-17T02:28:27Z")
Half a million manufacturing jobs to China in 4 years. How many in the 8 or 20 before that? And how do you propose to make it more attractive to keep jobs here, Mitt? Once again you’re a bit short on specifics. Oh yeah, labeling China a “currency manipulator”. That will work oh so well. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/409 "2012-10-17T02:28:33Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Did you mean that? @#$%, no, you’re right. I meant that they’ll vote for Romney, of course. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/410 "2012-10-17T02:28:42Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Anyone seriously disagree? Anytime Romney talks, she interrogates him. Yes, I disagree. She just did the same thing to the President. It’s just that the President didn’t try to talk over her as often as Romney has. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/411 "2012-10-17T02:28:48Z")
Those real time ratings are ludicrous and completely irrelevant. It’s why I’m watching the debate on PBS. ---
**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/412 "2012-10-17T02:28:49Z")
Yet another thing he’s going to do on Day 1. Is he going to have time to go to the bathroom on Day 1? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/413 "2012-10-17T02:29:08Z")
If one person tells the truth and one lies, and the moderator calls out the liar, is it really bias? ---
**Author:** ![A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_nice_guy_with_an_opinion)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/414 "2012-10-17T02:29:12Z")
Assault rifles…education… where is Obama going? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/415 "2012-10-17T02:29:29Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I think the gun nerds realize that in terms of support for the right to keep and bear arms, there’s no contest between Obama and Romney. They’ll hold their nose and vote for Romney. Not this one. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/416 "2012-10-17T02:29:42Z")
And now he’s blaming Obamacare for outsourcing. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/417 "2012-10-17T02:29:51Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Anytime Romney talks, she interrogates him. Anytime Obama stands up, she lets him interrupt. > > … > > ETA: She finally cuts him off, but let’s him keep talking.. So she treats him the same as Romney. Glad you cleared that up. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/418 "2012-10-17T02:30:00Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > **jtgain** : Go for that. Good luck. You seriously disagree that Candy Crowley is not showing an extreme amount of bias in this debate? It’s painfully obvious to me. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/419 "2012-10-17T02:30:42Z")
They’re going to have one more question? The debate is running long. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/420 "2012-10-17T02:31:02Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Did you mean that? I guess it is because it is really dawning on them that after Romney has attempted to run to the center when the debates came it is anybody’s guess if the Romney of the primaries or the moderate one with propensities to control guns will show up if he becomes president. On edit: Nope, he was just wrong on the name, but in this case both candidates have a record of voting for new gun rules. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847.md?page=22)