# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/421 "2012-10-17T02:31:11Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Not this one. Do you live in a swing state? ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/422 "2012-10-17T02:31:23Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Binders full of women! Binders Full of Women joined Facebook 48 minutes ago and has over 28,000 likes. > **[Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/romneybindersfullofwomen)** ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/423 "2012-10-17T02:31:24Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > You seriously disagree that Candy Crowley is not showing an extreme amount of bias in this debate? It’s painfully obvious to me. I disagree. She’s not doing that much, besides a few tries to stay on topic, and ending discussions to move onto the next topic. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/424 "2012-10-17T02:31:28Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > You seriously disagree that Candy Crowley is not showing an extreme amount of bias in this debate? It’s painfully obvious to me. Seems fair and balanced to me. ---
**Author:** ![Nazarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nazarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nazarene)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/425 "2012-10-17T02:31:52Z")
I don’t see it at all. I didn’t like it when Obama was talking over Candy either. I think all these guys need to realize that those things just make the audience uncomfortable and they shut out what you’re saying, even if they’re on your side. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/426 "2012-10-17T02:31:54Z")
> [@YWalker](#): > > Yet another thing he’s going to do on Day 1. Is he going to have time to go to the bathroom on Day 1? He’s going to have himself catheterized to save time. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/427 "2012-10-17T02:31:54Z")
Don’t get cocky Mr. President. You lost a bit of momentum when you started rambling and tried to talk over the moderator a minute ago. Luckily for you, Romney has done both of those more often. Just level off and bring it home. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/428 "2012-10-17T02:32:15Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And now he’s blaming Obamacare for outsourcing. Wait…we’re outsourcing MEDICAL CARE? That’s a LONG commute to get to a checkup… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/429 "2012-10-17T02:32:18Z")
**jtgain** : It’s not faaairrr. She’s not letting him lie his ass off! ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/430 "2012-10-17T02:32:58Z")
> [@BlackKnight](#): > > Don’t get cocky Mr. President. You lost a bit of momentum when you started rambling and tried to talk over the moderator a minute ago. Luckily for you, Romney has done both of those more often. Just level off and bring it home. The exception that proves the rule. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/431 "2012-10-17T02:33:12Z")
Counterfeit Apple store in China? Need a cite for that. ---
**Author:** ![Nazarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nazarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nazarene)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/432 "2012-10-17T02:33:15Z")
Romney not answering the China question. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/433 "2012-10-17T02:33:51Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Counterfeit Apple store in China? Need a cite for that. [22 of 'em, actually.](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14503724) ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/434 "2012-10-17T02:33:57Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Seems fair and balanced to me. Obama points, Crowley cuts Romney off, and turns it to him with a softball question. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/435 "2012-10-17T02:34:12Z")
The Apple store story is true. No cite handy, but I read about it months and months ago. Probably a lot more than just one counterfeit Apple store. ---
**Author:** ![Nazarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nazarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nazarene)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/436 "2012-10-17T02:34:15Z")
Obama being honest about those jobs not being salvageable. I like that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/437 "2012-10-17T02:34:41Z")
Romney: “Government does not create jobs.” So that means you’ve been lying the whole debate about how you’re going to create jobs as president? ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/438 "2012-10-17T02:34:41Z")
Romney is getting desperate. “Government does not create jobs!” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/439 "2012-10-17T02:34:43Z")
Mitt’s lip curl makes me think of Judge Smails. I keep waiting for him to yell “You’ll get nothing and like it!” ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/440 "2012-10-17T02:35:08Z")
Way to be proud of an asinine question, guy in the audience! Edit: Also, guy running for government job claims the government doesn’t create jobs, while promising to create jobs. Full marks, Mitts! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847.md?page=23)