# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/481 "2012-10-17T02:45:04Z")
Obama is awash with wellwishers. Romney has his family and a few others, all at arm’s length. Comfort zones say something about people. Okay, more people around Romney now. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/482 "2012-10-17T02:45:44Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > Those real time ratings are ludicrous and completely irrelevant. It’s why I’m watching the debate on PBS. Ugh, no kidding. > [@monstro](#): > > Saving the 47% remark for the end = win What was his exact quote? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/483 "2012-10-17T02:45:45Z")
Ha! I’m vote #5 on CNN’s post debate poll. Currently at 100% for Obama. ---
**Author:** ![HoboStew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/484 "2012-10-17T02:46:01Z")
Republicans (through Mitt) now dismissing trickle down, that is new, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/485 "2012-10-17T02:47:29Z")
Wasn’t there supposed to be a half-time show? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/486 "2012-10-17T02:48:25Z")
What did Obama say at the end(regarding the 47%)? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/487 "2012-10-17T02:48:50Z")
The CNN web poll now says 72-28 Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/488 "2012-10-17T02:48:53Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Who the fuck is Candy Crowley injection herself into the substance of the debate? Shut the fuck up! No fair! He didn’t get to lie his ass off without being called on it! Leave Mittney Alone!! ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/489 "2012-10-17T02:49:29Z")
CBS is doing “prize fighter blows”… start with “rancorous exchange over energy” ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/490 "2012-10-17T02:49:45Z")
I still have no clue which candidate knows WTF to do. Romney talked and it made sense. Then Obama talked and he made sense. Who the hell is right? Beats me. Neither side mentioned the 1000 lb gorilla in the election. Gridlock in the House and Senate makes it nearly impossible for any President to do squat. I can’t recall ever being so confused with an Election. Not happy with what Obama has accomplished and I’m not sure Romney can do any better. Tonight’s debate seemed like a tie. Obama will get a lift by being more assertive than last time. Otherwise they both made very good points. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/491 "2012-10-17T02:50:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wasn’t there supposed to be a half-time show? There was. Someone had a wardrobe malfunction and we all blocked out the memory. I’m not saying it was Romney … but it was Romney. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/492 "2012-10-17T02:51:14Z")
I’m glad that they changed Obama’s drugs. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/493 "2012-10-17T02:52:13Z")
> [@BlackKnight](#): > > There was. Someone had a wardrobe malfunction and we all blocked out the memory. > > I’m not saying it was Romney … but it was Romney. Please don’t tell me that was when Obama said “your’s is bigger than mine” ---
**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/494 "2012-10-17T02:52:36Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I still have no clue which candidate knows WTF to do. Romney talked and it made sense. Then Obama talked and he made sense. Who the hell is right? Beats me. Neither side mentioned the 1000 lb gorilla in the election. Gridlock in the House and Senate makes it nearly impossible for any President to do squat. > > I can’t recall ever being so confused with an Election. Not happy with what Obama has accomplished and I’m not sure Romney can do a any better. Obama can’t mention gridlock or the GOP will seize on it and all we’ll hear until election day is that Obama is blaming his inability to lead on the real victims (Republicans). Romney won’t mention gridlock because he doesn’t want to draw attention to the fact that the GOP’s goal is to take down Obama, not govern effectively. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/495 "2012-10-17T02:52:56Z")
Does Mrs. Romney always look like someone just sharted on the linens? I’ve never noticed that about her before. Maybe I’ve just never looked at her before. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/496 "2012-10-17T02:53:36Z")
> [@HoboStew](#): > > Republicans (through Mitt) now dismissing trickle down, that is new, isn’t it? Trickle down economics is still OK. Trickle down government is what doesn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/497 "2012-10-17T02:54:18Z")
> [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](#): > > Obama can’t mention gridlock or the GOP will seize on it and all we’ll hear until election day is that Obama is blaming his inability to lead on the real victims (Republicans). Romney won’t mention gridlock because he doesn’t want to draw attention to the fact that the GOP’s goal is to take down Obama, not govern effectively. That was on the front page of _The New York Times_. On the front page of USA Today was about the “women vote”. Guess which issue was addressed in this debate? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/498 "2012-10-17T02:56:17Z")
What was Obama’s comment on the 47%? ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/499 "2012-10-17T02:56:36Z")
> [@BlackKnight](#): > > Man, that moderator was totally biased toward the somewhat less weasely guy who lied somewhat less. Agree / disagree? I don’t know if it was bias, or the fact that Obama actually respected the rules of the debate. I wanted to smack Romney every time he kept talking after she told him to stop. His entitled attitude is unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/500 "2012-10-17T02:57:57Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > I don’t know if it was bias, or the fact that Obama actually respected the rules of the debate. I wanted to smack Romney every time he kept talking after she told him to stop. His entitled attitude is unbelievable. Well, except for Obama insistently going on about education when that wasn’t the question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847.md?page=26)