# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/81 "2012-10-17T01:13:22Z")
Poor guy asking the second question. He was shaking like a leaf. Not the most interesting question, though. Romney: “If all we do is befoul federal lands a lot more, gas prices will come down”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/82 "2012-10-17T01:14:15Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Obama definitely being more aggressive. > [@Nazarene](#): > > Obama a lot stronger tonight. Yeah, baby! He’s strong, but still relaxed and confident. And specifically addressing Romney’s lies. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/83 "2012-10-17T01:14:55Z")
Great start 4 Obama…needs to keep momentum ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/84 "2012-10-17T01:14:55Z")
Romney’s energy plan - “Drill, baby, drill”, with a side of “Damn the endangered species, full speed ahead”. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/85 "2012-10-17T01:15:31Z")
Yeah, fuck birds! Big birds, small birds, migratory birds… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/86 "2012-10-17T01:15:50Z")
What about his Massachussets “scholarship” rap? Is it so, and was it his idea? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/87 "2012-10-17T01:16:14Z")
Romney believes in renewables. He won’t do anything to invest in them, but he believes in renewables. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/88 "2012-10-17T01:16:33Z")
That right there is why I can’t stand Romney. The environment MATTERS. I’m not tree hugger, but it should be a major priority. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/89 "2012-10-17T01:16:39Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Great start 4 Obama…needs to keep momentum Needs to respond. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/90 "2012-10-17T01:16:39Z")
“Energy Independence”. Drink! ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/91 "2012-10-17T01:16:42Z")
I was wrong in predicting no direct callouts of RomneyLies®. Not the first time Obama’s faked me out. Glad to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/92 "2012-10-17T01:16:46Z")
“Manufacturing jobs are already coming back because we have so much energy”. Does that mean Romney is admitting Obama’s policies worked? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/93 "2012-10-17T01:17:47Z")
“Very little of what Governor Romney just said is true… What I try to do is be consistent.” Where was this Obama two weeks ago? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/94 "2012-10-17T01:18:08Z")
Obama is all but calling Romney a liar to his face. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/95 "2012-10-17T01:18:15Z")
No one actually answering the question about gas prices… probably because the answer would be “nothing the president does has a damn thing to do with gas prices, but if I say that, it makes me sound ineffectual”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/96 "2012-10-17T01:18:22Z")
Romney: “North America energy independent in seven years!” Not fucking likely. New drinking game: every time Obama calls Romney a liar, drink! ---
**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/97 "2012-10-17T01:18:40Z")
Romney’s lying through his teeth on renewables. He wants to get rid of wind energy tax credits. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/98 "2012-10-17T01:18:46Z")
Mitt’s askew tie- knot bodes well for Obama – don’t forget this all about image b4 substance 4 ‘undecideds’ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/99 "2012-10-17T01:18:57Z")
“Not true, Governor Romney. Not true.” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/100 "2012-10-17T01:19:37Z")
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