# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/121 "2012-10-17T01:24:22Z")

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I don’t care if you answer the question but I have to let them ask it. Refreshing bit of honesty from the moderator.

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**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/122 "2012-10-17T01:24:38Z")

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I am late to the party thanks to getting home late but I see Romney is moderating his own debate again.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/123 "2012-10-17T01:24:43Z")

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“Mitt, just what deductions do you plan to cut?” Nice.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/124 "2012-10-17T01:24:53Z")

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Crowley is at least trying to enforce the rules.

I HOPE Obama uses Romney’s ignoring the rules, as a dig in this tax section … “some people believe the rules should not apply to them”

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/125 "2012-10-17T01:25:12Z")

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Obama listening again.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/126 "2012-10-17T01:25:30Z")

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Again, Romney is not actually answering the question.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/127 "2012-10-17T01:25:32Z")

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You know, women don’t like that sort of behavior. Ann Coulter told me so.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/128 "2012-10-17T01:26:14Z")

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Hey, with no revenue, we have no money to spend! That’ll shrink the Gment all right. It’ll end the USA as we know it!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/129 "2012-10-17T01:26:41Z")

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Romney wants to help the middle class by eliminating the capital gains tax?

How many Americans does he believe have capital gains income?

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/130 "2012-10-17T01:26:44Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Again, Romney is not actually answering the question.

I think Obama, who is listening to Romney right now, knows that that is Romney’s strategy. 😛

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/131 "2012-10-17T01:27:01Z")

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Joseph Six Pack is thrilled to hear that his capital gains taxes will be lower.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/132 "2012-10-17T01:27:05Z")

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Yes, because we get so much interest on a small savings account that the tax burden is just crushing.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/133 "2012-10-17T01:27:33Z")

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Romney taxes… blah blah… think Obama is letting him hang himself?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/134 "2012-10-17T01:28:19Z")

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Did Mitt pass his math classes?

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/135 "2012-10-17T01:28:25Z")

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Now Mr. Romney is transforming into John McCain. 😃

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/136 "2012-10-17T01:29:26Z")

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Obama invoking the Clinton years now.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/137 "2012-10-17T01:29:43Z")

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> [@Kozmik](#):
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> Now Mr. Romney is transforming into John McCain. 😃

Man of 1000 faces.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/138 "2012-10-17T01:30:03Z")

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Yeah Mitters, the rich get richer and everyone benefits! Pull the other one! Dipshit… Oh yeah, attack Iran…wait for that one!

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/139 "2012-10-17T01:30:12Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Fiscal year 2008 Onshore Federal Oil Production: 285,000 BBLs per day.  
> 2011: 306,000
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> Romney’s claim is not accurate.
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> Offshore, ditto, 2008: 1,267,000  
> Offshore, 2011: 1,408,000
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> Again, not accurate.
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> Admittedly: 2007: 1,408,000
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> Cite: [http://www.eenews.net/assets/2012/04/03/document\_gw\_01.pdf](http://www.eenews.net/assets/2012/04/03/document_gw_01.pdf) PDF!
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> h/t [http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/)

Demand driven? Gas prices fell through the floor the second half of 2008 as demand dried up due to the onset of the recession.

I would guess that to a large degree production is driven by that demand.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/140 "2012-10-17T01:30:39Z")

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Obama is comparing Romney tonight to Romney at the primary debates.

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