# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/141 "2012-10-17T01:30:42Z")
Unless Obama effectively attacks him, what decided Democrat voters think of Romney’s statements aren’t going to change anything. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/142 "2012-10-17T01:30:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Obama invoking the Clinton years now. Romeny to reply. Obama needs to reply to Romney’s reply! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/143 "2012-10-17T01:31:11Z")
Anybody keeping track of how many times Obama has called Romney a liar? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/144 "2012-10-17T01:31:12Z")
Mitt’s lip is beginning to curl. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/145 "2012-10-17T01:31:29Z")
Romney has changed his position on tax cuts for the 1%. He has flip-flopped. AGAIN. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/146 "2012-10-17T01:31:45Z")
Why does the “pick a number” for exemptions keep changing? Why hasn’t he picked the number? Surely - someone has run them. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/147 "2012-10-17T01:32:15Z")
I don’t know which Mitt Romney showed up to this debate, but at least the president decided to attend this one. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/148 "2012-10-17T01:32:17Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Joseph Six Pack is thrilled to hear that his capital gains taxes will be lower. No fucking joke! That will be a load off the poor bastard. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/149 "2012-10-17T01:32:26Z")
So do we have some sort of compact with Canada over this energy independence for North America? Or will we be sending troops in? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/150 "2012-10-17T01:32:40Z")
Romney: “And they are going now because of the policies of this administration.” Liar. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/151 "2012-10-17T01:33:08Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Demand driven? Gas prices fell through the floor the second half of 2008 as demand dried up due to the onset of the recession. > > I would guess that to a large degree production is driven by that demand. ## My guess too. Note that I left out private production though, as I was addressing the claim of production dropping by half by Romney. Obama pounding on Romney’s tax numbers, which don’t add up. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/152 "2012-10-17T01:33:22Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Anybody keeping track of how many times Obama has called Romney a liar? Every time he does, I take a drink, and I’ve lost count! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/153 "2012-10-17T01:33:23Z")
“Five trillion dollar tax cut”. Drink! ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/154 "2012-10-17T01:33:25Z")
Romney cannot out-wonk Obama on numbers. This is Obama’s forte. Plus, he tends to send business to China, not support them. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/155 "2012-10-17T01:33:41Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Mitt’s lip is beginning to curl. Mitt is _seething_. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/156 "2012-10-17T01:33:49Z")
That’s one pissed looking Romney on the split screen. ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/157 "2012-10-17T01:33:54Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Why does the “pick a number” for exemptions keep changing? Why hasn’t he picked the number? Surely - someone has run them. This explains it a little. > **[PropFirms Homepage](https://www.prop-firms.com/)** > > Compare prop firms the smart way with up to date challenge and funded program comparisons. Learn about audition fees, evaluation processes, and more ---
**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/158 "2012-10-17T01:33:56Z")
So if effort to not look like a “smug a-hole” the candidates must look and slight-ly smurk. Kind looks rapey. Why is it an arrogant way to act when you are looking down or writing notes while the other guy is talking?? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/159 "2012-10-17T01:34:01Z")
Obama pointing out that Romney’s math doesn’t add up. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/160 "2012-10-17T01:34:19Z")
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