# The second presidential debate: 10/16/2012

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847 "2012-10-16T04:35:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-presidential-debate-10-16-2012/637847/797 "2012-10-17T15:30:51Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Over and over and over and over, in this thread and elsewhere, Obama supporters have clearly stated (and gone nuts over the fact) that Obama clearly lost that first debate.

You must have missed this…

> [@Am I the only person bewildered to learn that somebody won that debate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-bewildered-to-learn-that-somebody-won-that-debate/636828/1):
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> Being irresponsible and lazy, I’m not prepared to read the 12±page debate thread. But I need a sanity check. I watched the debate on Wednesday and I was disappointed by what a non-event it was; both candidates repeated talking points from the debate trail. Every accusation made by Romney was one he’s said a hundred times before; ditto Obama. Each of them dodged or denied the claims of the other with no specific counter-point. The whole thing seemed like an extended, alternating campaign commercial. A couple funny lines (I laughed at Obama saying “Well you’re going to have a busy first day sitting down with Democrats after repealing Obamacare”), but otherwise, total dud.
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> Then I learn from pundits that Romney was scintillating, animated, and passionate, while Obama was dispirited and bored. Apparently Romney scored all kinds of points (while saying nothing I haven’t heard many times already), while Obama failed to land any punches (um…I think it _is_ irresponsible of Romney to hide his plan, beyond killing PBS…). In retrospect, I suppose Romney was more spastic and Obama was a bit professorial, but who’s surprised by this???

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