Perhaps as a legislator Obama learned how to play the “I’m totally just wrapping it up here” move with the chairperson. Meanwhile, as a CEO, Romney learned the “I sign your paychecks, so you’ll give me as much time as I need” maneuver.
Well, I have to call that one a win for Obama. Had there been no other debate before this, it would have been closer to a wash, or maybe a slight Obama win. But given where the respective bars were, and how much Romney needed to maintain the narrative that came out of the last debate that Obama was detached and in over his head, Obama came back big, and that’s going to give him lots of momentum coming out of this debate.
The right-wing echo machine’s gonna have to come up with a new outrage tomorrow. Obama killed the Benghazi story dead tonight, while Romney pooped his pants over it.
When Romney talked about how the Obama campaign is saying mean things about him, I wanted Obama to say something like:
“Look, I am not the one who said he said that 47% of the people feel they are victims and are entitled. He said it; It’s on tape. Yes, I’ll admit that after that tape was released, we ran an ad. And, you want to know what we said in that ad? We didn’t say a thing. We just rolled the tape! Not to provide some out-of-context quote…No, we rolled the tape and let it keep rolling for the whole [45 (insert actual value)] second soliloquy. If Governor Romney doesn’t want us to use his speeches in our ads, maybe he should think a little bit harder before he says these things.”
As someone who thought Romney dominated Obama in the first debate, I believe Obama destroyed Romney this time around. And Romney’s vague “I know how to do it”/“I know how ____ works” must surely be (or become) a drinking game. I don’t recall him using that construct in the first debate (perhaps I was too distracted by Obama’s zombie-like performance). In this one it was very jarring, and came across as bland special pleading.
He brought a bit of his inner Luther, and we are better for it.
Post game interview with Candy on CNN.
So… any official polls out yet?
Looks like Obama is gaining on Intrade - he’s back up to 64% after being at, IIRC, 60% yesterday.
I wouldn’t give Obama that much credit. I think he wins a split decision, but not one that will budge the polls. He was helped by the most biased moderator in debate history and I believe that anyone but Obama partisans can see that.
She hijacked Romney’s best opportunity over Libya and handed Obama his “for an AWB before he was against it” line. She should never moderate another debate.
Hardly. Romney failed to hurt him over it, but the media’s got the bit in its collective mouth now.
Plus, Obama accepted full responsibility, which on the positive side is Presidential, but on the negative side, well, he’s fully responsible. And his high dudgeon about the accusations of lying are going to bite him once the media fact checks him. Someone ordered Jay Carney and Susan Rice to lie for two weeks.
“Victims,” not losers.
That’s what Senator John Kerry, Mitt Romney’s debate stand in, said in the spin room on CNN.
Yeah, I’d pay money to see something like that - not actual violence, but one of the candidates going off on a purple face, spittle flecked, vein throbbing personal attack.
Wait–his best opportunity over Libya was to say something incontrovertibly untrue?
Me, I’m delighted to live in a world where a candidate gets immediately called out by the impartial press when they get a straight-up fact wrong. So, obviously, was the audience.
Obama, however, was clearly smelling blood, and maybe he wishes she hadn’t interjected. His whole “proceed, Governor” line, was the line of a dude who knew his opponent was only going to hang himself further.
Romney should have done better, definitely. He actually did great on the immigration question but a bit poor on the Libya question, partly due to moderator. Otoh, Obama told some outrageously large lies. Can’t see this doing much to budge the polls.
Actually, Crowley was wrong. She just scanned the transcript for “acts of terror” without checking the context.
Obama did not call the attack on the consulate an act of terror.
I think Romney and conservatives generally may have misled too often about the Libya response that Romney got confused about what actually happened. He seemed not to know that the President called it an act of terror on September 12.
Why do you think he was talking about attacks of terror not shaking our resolve? Just a non-sequitur? That’s nonsense.
CBS Poll of undecided voters: 37% say Obama won, 30% Romney.
Reporter Jim Acosta just asked Senator Rob Portman, Barack Obama’s stand-in, on how Candy Crowley corrected Governor Mitt Romney on the President’s Rose Garden statement. Portman equivocated, mentioning something about the UN admbassador or someone saying it wasn’t a terrorist attack because of a YouTube video. Mutually exclusive? What is going on here?
I’d pay double if they did it in spandex skimpies in a tank of lime jello.