# The Second Stone is a piece of shit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 14, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445 "2014-09-14T01:07:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/201 "2014-09-14T23:27:04Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Tell **Killing Time** what he’s won please…
> 
> Yes Bob, **Killing time** has won a year’s supply of window cleaner and a shiny new helmet.

Think that up all by yourself, did you? You should print it out and put it up on the refrigerator.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/202 "2014-09-14T23:36:55Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> [http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24705710/report-ray-rice-told-roger-goodell-that-he-hit-fiancee](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24705710/report-ray-rice-told-roger-goodell-that-he-hit-fiancee)
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> He clearly admits hitting her. That isn’t in dispute.

And because that is not in dispute one is left with the realization that your idea that there was a hit from her is not sourced still, I guess her replying with a slap to his spitting does not have the elements that you need to continue to make your sorry point.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/203 "2014-09-14T23:36:56Z")

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> [@Killing\_Time](#):
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> O.K., fair enough. If the guy admitted it, that’s good enough for me.

Then why won’t you shut the fuck up?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/204 "2014-09-14T23:57:53Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> Then why won’t you shut the fuck up?

Because he’s here to argue and shout at people. Because he’s having fun on teh intertoobs.

Because he’s finding it easy to reel 'em in, frankly. No offense intended.

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/205 "2014-09-14T23:58:50Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> Then why won’t you shut the fuck up?

Well I was going to, but now I think I’ll keep talking just because you’re an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/206 "2014-09-15T00:00:02Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Hi **Killing Time** is like the flies hovering nearby the pile of shit, thinking they’ve discovered something tasty when really all they’ve found is someone else’s giant pile of shit.

Funny, in my previous post I also added something about Rice being a piece of shit and the two losers in this thread being the flies swirling around him - we seem to be on the same wavelength.

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/207 "2014-09-15T00:01:16Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Because he’s here to argue and shout at people. Because he’s having fun on teh intertoobs.
> 
> Because he’s finding it easy to reel 'em in, frankly. No offense intended.

Not really. I was here to inject a little reality into your Kool Aid festival. Most of the shouting is being done by others.

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/208 "2014-09-15T00:03:59Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Funny, in my previous post I also added something about Rice being a piece of shit and the two losers in this thread being the flies swirling around him - we seem to be on the same wavelength.

Yes, because in your completely un-nuanced, black and white, on or off mind, there is no difference between “Maybe he didn’t intend to knock her out. Maybe she just hit her head on the railing”, and “I love Ray Rice and I support and defend everything he does or ever has done.”:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/209 "2014-09-15T00:06:53Z")

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> [@Killing\_Time](#):
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> Not really. I was here to inject a little reality into your Kool Aid festival. Most of the shouting is being done by others.

The evidence so far shows that you are confused on this item too.

Most of what you claimed was not real. At all.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/210 "2014-09-15T00:09:07Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Because he’s here to argue and shout at people. Because he’s having fun on teh intertoobs.
> 
> Because he’s finding it easy to reel 'em in, frankly. No offense intended.

No offense taken.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/211 "2014-09-15T00:10:25Z")

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Reality? Cool, I’m ready. When does that start?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/212 "2014-09-15T00:10:26Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Because he’s here to argue and shout at people. Because he’s having fun on teh intertoobs.
> 
> Because he’s finding it easy to reel 'em in, frankly. No offense intended.

Well, at least he can acknowledge when he really goofs off, but it seems that his quality is not to learn that one implication of acknowledging something is to become more humble; it seems that that is not the case as per his last reply, so the nuanced 🙂 thing to say here is that he is falling into a **little** bit of trolling now.

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/213 "2014-09-15T00:11:26Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> The evidence so far shows that you are confused on this item too.
> 
> Most of what you claimed was not real. At all.

Hmmm… did I make any claims that weren’t real? No. I did claim that we didn’t have evidence, up to the time I wrote it, that Rice made a fist when he struck her in the elevator, but then evidence was posted that he admitted “punching” her, which would imply making a fist, so I accepted that as new evidence. But no, I did not claim anything that was “not real”.

But thanks for playing…

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/214 "2014-09-15T00:12:13Z")

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> [@Killing\_Time](#):
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> Hmmm… did I make any claims that weren’t real? No. I did claim that we didn’t have evidence, up to the time I wrote it, that Rice made a fist when he struck her in the elevator, but then evidence was posted that he admitted “punching” her, which would imply making a fist, so I accepted that as new evidence. But no, I did not claim anything that was “not real”.
> 
> But thanks for playing…

Like I said…  
(BTW **we had the evidence** , look at the date of the CBS sports report)

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/215 "2014-09-15T00:14:57Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Well, at least he can acknowledge when he really goofs off, but it seems that his quality is not to learn that one implication of acknowledging something is to become more humble; it seems that that is not the case as per his last reply, so the nuanced 🙂 thing to say here is that he is falling into a **little** bit of trolling now.

Hmmm…you guys were hardly gracious when I acknowledged something that I didn’t know before. IIRC, you just used it as an excuse to heap MORE abuse on me. But unlike most here, I am not the type to ignore facts just so I can pretend to “win”.

Oh, and you’re an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/216 "2014-09-15T00:15:59Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Like I said…  
> (BTW **we had the evidence** , look at the date of the CBS sports report)

So?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/217 "2014-09-15T00:17:02Z")

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> [@Killing\_Time](#):
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> Hmmm…you guys were hardly gracious when I acknowledged something that I didn’t know before. IIRC, you just used it as an excuse to heap MORE abuse on me. But unlike most here, I am not the type to ignore facts just so I can pretend to “win”.
> 
> Oh, and you’re an asshole.

Coming from you **that is actually the real badge of honor**.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/218 "2014-09-15T00:18:10Z")

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> [@Killing\_Time](#):
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> So?

[QUOTE=Killing Time]  
I did claim that we didn’t have evidence, up to the time I wrote it  
[/QUOTE]

That time was today, the CBS report came on 9-11-2014

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/219 "2014-09-15T00:18:29Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Coming from you **that is actually the real badge of honor**.

I see what you did there. You took my comment and repeated it back to me. You’re just hitting one home run after another here. Your mom’s gonna be proud.

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**Author:** ![Killing\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/76d3ee/32.png) [@Killing\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Killing_Time)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-second-stone-is-a-piece-of-shit/698445/220 "2014-09-15T00:21:17Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by Killing Time  
> I did claim that we didn’t have evidence, up to the time I wrote it  
> …  
> That time was today, the CBS report came on 9-11-2014

I said that WE didn’t have the evidence, here in this thread. We were discussing the footage from the elevator. Are you this dense in real life, or do you just play a dense guy on the internet?

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