# The Secret movie. Is this a cult?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 8, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329 "2007-12-08T22:25:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/21 "2008-04-10T23:48:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Anne Neville]  
Lemme guess- somebody with a financial interest in credit-card companies, home-equity loan companies, or bankruptcy lawyers wrote this book :dubious:  
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I don’t think so but you’ve given me a great idea…

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/22 "2008-04-11T00:00:28Z")

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Huh. What’s up with the search feature? I can’t find the thread I started on this topic a few months back.

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/23 "2008-04-11T00:37:13Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
Huh. What’s up with the search feature? I can’t find the thread I started on this topic a few months back.  
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You aren’t thinking hard enough.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/24 "2008-04-11T00:40:59Z")

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And if you guess wrong, you have to wait 86 thousand seconds until your next guess.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/25 "2008-04-11T00:48:12Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
Huh. What’s up with the search feature? I can’t find the thread I started on this topic a few months back.  
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If you want it badly enough, the thread will reveal itself to to you. You must not really want to find it, or believe you can find it. You’re obviosly not trying hard enough.

It’s human nature to blame externals for our shortcomings, like this so-called “search feature.” It’s not about the search feature, **lissener** , it’s about you. The sooner you accept that and try to change whatever it is that’s inside you that prevents you from finding that thread, the sooner you will be on the road to health, wealth, and instantaneous thread recall.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/26 "2008-04-11T00:51:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
If you want it badly enough, the thread will reveal itself to to you. You must not really want to find it, or believe you can find it. You’re obviosly not trying hard enough.

It’s human nature to blame externals for our shortcomings, like this so-called “search feature.” It’s not about the search feature, **lissener** , it’s about you. The sooner you accept that and try to change whatever it is that’s inside you that prevents you from finding that thread, the sooner you will be on the road to health, wealth, and instantaneous thread recall.  
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Aah. I \*am \*the hamsters.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/27 "2008-04-11T00:58:34Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
Aah. I \*am \*the hamsters.  
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Exactly. Just get out of your own way, and life will be golden. That’s what I tell my mom when she’s in chemo. She hasn’t thanked me yet, but I’m sure she will! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/28 "2008-04-11T11:01:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Tahssa]  
:smack:  
So thats the reason my house burnt down, my dog ran away, my wife cheated on me and my kids murdered the neighbors. I’ve been going left leg first.  
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There is a way to reverse this.

**|** V[sub]7[/sub] **|** I **|** IV **|** V **|** I[sub]7[/sub] **|** I **|** IV[sub]7[/sub] **|** IV **|** I[sub]7[/sub] **|** I **|** I **|** I **|**

Play with care 😉

Si

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/29 "2008-04-11T14:19:54Z")

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I really love the way it makes every disaster and illness the fault of the sufferer- if you (the people of Rwanda, anyone with cancer or ebola or in Sarajevo or the Holocaust) weren’t so _negative_, and didn’t will these bad things, then the bad things wouldn’t happen to you.

I hate the book with fiery wrath.

I also hate Esther Hicks _Ask and it is Given_, because it’s the same basic idea. And _The Master Key_, and anything else that sells the same ‘the universe wants to make you selfishly happy and if you’re miserable it’s your own fault’ crap.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/30 "2008-04-11T15:22:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Tahssa]

So thats the reason my house burnt down, my dog ran away, my wife cheated on me and my kids murdered the neighbors. I’ve been going left leg first.  
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[QUOTE=si\_blakely]  
There is a way to reverse this.  
**|** V[sub]7[/sub] **|** I **|** IV **|** V **|** I[sub]7[/sub] **|** I **|** IV[sub]7[/sub] **|** IV **|** I[sub]7[/sub] **|** I **|** I **|** I **|**

Play with care 😉  
Si  
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Yeah, he might get his house, dog, wife and truck back, but he’ll lose Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/31 "2008-04-11T15:48:24Z")

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[QUOTE=shy guy]  
\*Edit: I found [a clip](http://video.aol.com/video-detail/the-secret-james-ray-genie-clip/3495089618) of the scene where they talk about Aladdin.  
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That guy (“Philosopher”? um, okay) looks somewhat like, and _feels **exactly** _ like, Kevin Trudeau.

Naturally, this has to be a remarkable coincidence.

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/32 "2008-04-11T16:29:40Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> B.S. like this really insults my intelligence and I can’t believe people buy into such crap so easily.

This is so asinine we really need a new word to express how asinine it is, but I can see how it appeals to people.

I mean, wouldn’t it be great if you really could get more money just by acting like you have more money, and get to skip the boring part where you work hard and do without some things to get the money? You get to skip the boring part and do the fun part of buying fancy cars and vacations.

Another appealing feature- it’s simple. Lots of people seem to really want to believe that there is some simple solution to any problem.

It’s appealing to be able to blame people for their own misfortunes too, because if people are to blame for bad things happening to them, that means there’s a way to prevent bad things from happening to you. It gives them a way to feel like they are in control of something even though they really aren’t, just like superstitions like carrying around a rabbit’s foot for good luck. Also, it means you don’t even have to feel sorry for people who have bad lives, because it is their own fault. And if you get an excuse to avoid people whose lives are not going well- even better! Spending time with those people is depressing, after all.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/33 "2008-04-11T16:57:37Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
I \*am \*the hamsters.  
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Goo goo g’joob.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/34 "2008-04-11T19:10:22Z")

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Not too long ago I realized one reason I was totally burned out was that I had one too many part time jobs (Now I just have two & a full time job). Anyway, since quitting work at the bookstore there’s a lot of things I miss - the nice customers (there were some), first grab at new books & mags, the discount, the paycheck.  
BUT it is all worthwhile because now I don’t have to smile & be polite while selling Ann Coulter books or “The Secret”!!!

yeah, we sold a ton of em. and a little bit of me was dying every time. I so wanted to tell the customer “you know this is crap, don’t you?”…

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/35 "2008-04-11T19:43:06Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
Aah. I \*am \*the hamsters.  
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[Tyler Durden] You are _not your fucking hamsters!_ [/TD]

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**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/36 "2008-04-11T20:35:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Tuckerfan]  
[Tyler Durden] You are _not your fucking hamsters!_ [/TD]  
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[Keanu]There is no hamster[/Keanu]

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/37 "2008-04-11T20:45:45Z")

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Whoa.

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/38 "2008-04-11T20:49:24Z")

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**The Secret** recently helped end a relationship I was in.

We were eating dinner making conversation when she brought up this “new fantastic video” she’d watched. I thought, “terrific, I’m in the film industry, this is a conversation I can contribute to.” Then she mentioned that it was **The Secret**. I have very little patience for things like this so I gave myself a grace period of about a week and broke up with her using some BS ‘growing apart’ excuse.

I know I’m a jerk, when it comes to relationships I’m Seinfeld to the nth degree.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/39 "2008-04-11T20:54:06Z")

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[QUOTE=BMax]  
[Keanu]There is no hamster[/Keanu]  
[/QUOTE]

[Gere]For God’s sake, get that hamster outta my ass![/Gere]\*

\*Overheard from a friend of a friend, so it must be true

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-secret-movie-is-this-a-cult/429329/40 "2008-04-11T21:04:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Malthus]  
[Gere]For God’s sake, get that hamster outta my ass![/Gere]\*

\*Overheard from a friend of a friend, so it must be true  
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[Lemmiwinks, you must find your way out of this place, or you will die.](http://youtube.com/watch?v=dcR3ZFlMYNQ&feature=related)

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