# The Senate torture report **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 9, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-senate-torture-report/706773 "2014-12-09T17:20:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 816
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-senate-torture-report/706773/816 "2014-12-14T18:47:10Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > They slaughtered entire villages in retaliation for the raid. that you keep insisting it was “only” 25,000 when the actual number was 250,000 is just semantic bullshit. The total number of people killed stands in spite of your attempt at a debate point. Now if you have a quote that says the were originally tasked with killing 225,000 people then by all means post it. > **[Second Sino-Japanese War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War)** > > China >  Japan > 14,000,000 total > [@](#): > > "The Chinese casualties (for the 1937-45 war) were 3.22 million soldiers, 9.13 million civilians who were collateral damage, and another 8.4 million were non-military casualties. According to historian Mitsuyoshi Himeta, at least 2.7 million civilians died during **the “kill all, loot all, burn all” operation (Three Alls Policy, or sanko sakusen) implemented in May 1942 in North China by general Yasuji Okamura and authorized on 3 December 1941 by Imperial Headquarter Order number 575."** As another poster mentioned in a past discussion on this: > [@Retribution for the Doolittle Raid](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/retribution-for-the-doolittle-raid/499469/16): > > What the PBS site actually says is: > > which is not quite the same thing. Also the wiki article on that [Japanese operation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhejiang-Jiangxi_Campaign) notes that number was a Chinese estimate, and that the operation had a secondary purpose of denying access to the area to the Allies for the building of airbases. > > So without having a counter-cite, I’d say it’s very likely the Chinese estimate is unrealistically high, and what deaths there were, while doubtless large numbers, were not all due to the search for the Doolittle fliers per se. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-senate-torture-report/706773)._