# The short Sad Truth of Men from the Sub Continent

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 8, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391 "2006-12-08T20:26:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![MonkeyMule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@MonkeyMule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMule)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/1 "2006-12-08T20:26:15Z")

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[Man It really got to suck to be from India](http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1165574827719&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_Canada&call_pageid=968332188774&call_pagepath=News/Canada)

India’s men come up short in condom study  
Dec. 8, 2006. 12:24 PM  
REUTERS NEWS AGENCY  
NEW DELHI — Condoms designed to meet international size specifications are too big for many Indian men as their penises fall short of what manufacturers had anticipated, an Indian study has found.

The Indian Council of Medical Research, a leading state-run centre, said its initial findings from a two-year study showed 60 per cent of men in the financial capital Mumbai had penises about 2.4 cm shorter than those condoms catered for.

For a further 30 per cent, the difference was at least 5 cm. A poor fit meant the prophylactics often didn’t do the job they were bought for, and led to some tearing or slipping off during use.

“One of the reasons for a failure of up to 20 per cent (of condoms) is the association of the size of the condom to the erect penis,” the council’s Dr. Chander Puri told Reuters, adding another reason was couples often put them on in a hurry.

Puri said many men in India, which has the world’s highest HIV positive caseload, were too shy to ask for condoms.

“We need more vending machines for condoms of different sizes so people can pick a condom with confidence that is suited to their needs,” he said.

The Times of India reported the ICMR survey had studied 1,400 men between 18-50 years of age in cities like Mumbai and New Delhi as well as in rural areas in a report. It entitled its story “Indian men don’t measure up.”

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/2 "2006-12-08T20:30:57Z")

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Wow. Deja vu.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/3 "2006-12-08T20:32:56Z")

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e-logic beat you to this a few hours ago.

[It’s official… Indian men have tiny tonkers!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=399261)

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/4 "2006-12-08T20:45:37Z")

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Wow, [there sure is a lot of interest](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=399261) in indian penises on the boards today.

(I know I’m not the first to point this out, but I found my way of saying it funnier!)

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/5 "2006-12-08T22:14:06Z")

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Well looking at the numbers of the Indian population, something seems to be working fine.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/6 "2006-12-08T23:34:48Z")

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[QUOTE=casdave]  
Well looking at the numbers of the Indian population, something seems to be working fine.  
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Wow, not only is the article being re-posted, but people are making the same jokes too. Spooky!

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/7 "2006-12-08T23:39:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Rigamarole]  
Wow, not only is the article being re-posted, but people are making the same jokes too. Spooky!  
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And not only that, the same point of the joke is already made in the article that’s been reposted. Twilight zone stuff, huh?.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/8 "2006-12-09T00:20:27Z")

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[QUOTE=casdave]  
Well looking at the numbers of the Indian population, something seems to be working fine.  
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Not the condoms, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/9 "2006-12-09T00:56:01Z")

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[QUOTE=MonkeyMule]  
[Man It really got to suck to be from India](http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1165574827719&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_Canada&call_pageid=968332188774&call_pagepath=News/Canada)  
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Okay, I don’t understand why there’s got to be sucking involved with the short penes, but at least this cite gives some numbers. Of course, those numbers don’t make sense:

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> The Indian Council of Medical Research, a leading state-run centre, said its initial findings from a two-year study showed 60 per cent of men in the financial capital Mumbai had penises about 2.4 cm shorter than those condoms catered for.
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> For a further 30 per cent, the difference was at least 5 cm. A poor fit meant the prophylactics often didn’t do the job they were bought for, and led to some tearing or slipping off during use.

Okay, 60% are shorter than the condoms. If the standard condom is sized for the average man, then only 50% should be shorter than the condoms. 10% off (by \> 2.4 cm) isn’t too bad.

But then, it’s a “further” 30% – is that 30% of the 60% were \> 5 cm (and, hence, also \> 2.4 cm) shorter? (18% 5 cm short, 42% 2.4 cm short) Or is it 30% were \> 5 cm shorter in addition to the 60% that were 2.4 cm shorter?

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> “One of the reasons for a failure of up to 20 per cent (of condoms) is the association of the size of the condom to the erect penis,” the council’s Dr. Chander Puri told Reuters, adding another reason was couples often put them on in a hurry.

Now, only 20% of the condoms are failing because they’re too big. It would be nice to know how much shorter the penes must be for the condoms to fail.

But it rather doesn’t matter, because “many men in India” won’t use condoms in the first place – so their sampling method would seem to be non-representative of the general population to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/10 "2006-12-09T01:04:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Lightray]  
Okay, I don’t understand why there’s got to be sucking involved with the short penes,  
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because otherwise the condom falls off?

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2006, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-short-sad-truth-of-men-from-the-sub-continent/383391/11 "2006-12-09T03:23:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Heffalump and Roo]  
because otherwise the condom falls off?  
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But the suction is going to be in the wrong direction to keep it on!

… assuming my understanding of Indian penes is up to snuff. I’ll admit to having no practical expertise on the subject.
